All amateurs can’t stand the fact that it’s not working with traits, at all. But only genes and markers.
In the cannaworld, it’s a revolutionary idea that don’t even hit yet the reptilian block ^^
In the cat’s world it’s a bunch more mastered, genes and markers are known. So you directly test the cat if the genetic is compliant with your breeding’s style and plans, and not in asking a kidney for such accuracy. Just a matter of reagents now, the most expensive is the laboratory skills and equipment.
Just a slice to relativize what is done with canna with what is done with cats at amateur and pro level. And even there, the “magical punnet square” make damages. And to dodge these damages, they milk the line until it can no longer stand F2s with fertility in socks. And to dodge this another cascading damage, they make the financial compromise to use cousins. Unfortunately, there is nothing more beyond that irresponsible lines. Even for an unique specimen.
It’s effective to an extend, it can’t implement a brain in those that don’t even have a soul imho. Still, this opinion is considered as radical today. Claiming it’s ineffective in tents and not in untouched valleys is radical too ^^
The real purpose is dope to known. It’s a mathematician student (initially) in the works of one of the pillar of modern genetics. Bateson is a high figure and kind of father of the propagation of mendelism in professional applications. And no one give a fuck at least from this fundamental context, the story is dope and a chain.
Punnet meet Hardy (a brilliant mathematician), to gave him a problematic on the patterns of the genetic propagation (on a stable and large set). Hardy answer to him by what we know today as Hardy-Weinberg principle.
Punnet was working with Bateson, a high figure of the Mendelism. Then we got the AA(p²)-Aa(2pq)-aa(q²). The context of these notations are not even known when used, even if Punnet “softened” the maths.
The factors for such predictability is even very hard to dispose with a losted island where you can grow distant large “wild” crops. By the simple leverage of your imported seeds when you settle, it’s breaking the model in ashes lol It’s not modelization of evolution, it’s a mathematical demonstration that genetic patterns are existing. It’s laughable today, but in early 20th it was revolutionnary.
Then with 4 cycles a year, you reach fast a serious grip. I think it’s infinite in its manner to recombine, but not so on how to answer to problematics (if kept not hybridized). Fast flowering tropical cultivars will stay rares ^^
present is already the past buddy. On the practical side everything is to mobilize from the momentum when accuracy and results are a true concern. But stacking rounds and rounds like a robot will not change much anything. The methodism to document, treat and archive this flow of datas on expressions it’s what make always the difference with canna : sharpness of your scalpels to promote maximum intensity ^^
so true so dope ^^
Being afraid to be punished by the weed is handicaping, in another hand. It’s actually a good gauge to evaluate the height of the “what it take”.
My opinion in front of such very common fear now :
- If the start is from fems, the battle is already losted. It’s not because you’re specially bad ^^
- Bullshits are killing genetics more than bad practices in the cannaworld. Opacity too. And today we are kings at it lol Know your classics.
- Stoners like to make plans. A lot. And everything i’m sharing on the subject is to apply in real time. As crazy that it sound, it’s looking like a first big trap to jump. Generating often lunar discussions on breeding subjects ^^
- There is a simple way to never screw up : sampling
As dumb that it’s looking, tasting comparatively two vegetal mass in a cone is working well. While it’s growing. As simple than this ^^
- Don’t listen your ego, you know already if the weed is better or worse than the previous generation.
That’s the fairy tale the most shared, because IBLs are very rares now. I mean in general, even for amateur repros. So all kind of esoteric bullshits can be shared on the subject.
The concept of “breed true” or “breed trough” don’t even exist in my native langage lol It’s not because you inbred and narrow a genotype that it will become dominant VS everything else not inbred.
It give the impression that it’s working when the genes are literally tested and identified, for each move. But at the end it’s just an extremely destructive funnel, that consume the genotype like a torch. Then you got a “my line is depressed genetically, let’s combust others”. For me it’s not breeding, it’s consuming the global genpool with a flamethrower.
The deal stay quite simple at the level of genotype. I should calculate how many seeds i launched since now three decades but i never crossed the path of a pure heterozygous line. Never, and in all kind of seeds you can imagine ^^ Maybe i’m wrong but i think that even chill profiles that just enjoy to grow, with maybe 2 seasons at least under the belt, are able to feel it.
What make a strain are the homozygous traits that make the progeny. But it’s not an apple app, it’s messy. It’s life, and life is chaos ^^
So even in the most unstable line you can imagine, the line is structured around a solid backbone that restrict the expressions. Let’s say flowering time it’s easy.
On a large panel of seeds, what most of stoners are calling “ripeness” or flowering time, is actually not the flowering time. It’s the necessary time to harvest a specific final product.
So, they will experience different hormonal expressions and call it flowering times. Put it in a punnet square and you have a double combo of non sense lol When you consider the flowering time with seeds or unseeded by the angle of the death … it’s changing radically the game.
Most direct to shorten a line is to outcross it with a fast one. Beside it, the only way to shorten a flowering time is to reduce the lifespan of the line. As dumb and easy that this … hormones will follow for maturation.
Is it because the “short” always “breed true” on a “long”, or because it’s one of the options of the square ? Absolutely nothing more is beyond. It’s just farming damned hell lol
a F2 is an IBL and i don’t see why so many fuzz and buzz around this. And why canna shouldn’t comply specifically to this. I just read “inbred”. Absolutely not “five stars FOMO take my money”.
That’s really a beautiful description. My level of grammar don’t permit to be this accurate ^^
So naturally, you’re pushed to learn from failures much more than with success at least by respect of the genetic and its potential.
Folks also often forgot, with modern lifes, how we successfully domesticated a bunch of animals and cultivar without any other help that the momentum built with them. That later, became agronomy.
slippery subject, because it’s belonging to methods.
I found the peace in rejecting the binary “rejected/accepted” for a neutral scoring. Closest to 0, the better. Not saying that it’s the way, it’s just adapted to me. But neutralizing your notations to cutt off your natural human biases (ego), is a bunch of useless noise muted for decisions. And stress.
I knew both extremes : weed artists and pure technicians. For one, interpretation is everything and it work for them. For the other, it’s when interpretation is used that the shit storm is starting ^^
I think that people have to found the balance themselves, and to don’t search or apply a rigid model on this side. Results will just tell.
you’re on fire ^^ dope
Yeah but it will start to be discouraging if on top of the homozigosity of traits, i start to talk about the gears of the uniformity lmao I prefer more messy new homebreeders that evolve for some, instead a low pool of desperate try hard God this one was awfull lol
My universal answer to all stoners : just the fuck do like everybody, backcross your best motherplants. Then yeah, later there is alt options but with more work. Get encouraging results first with satisfying uniform progeny and goals assumed to BX3.
The image is a bit hardcore maybe ^^ Let’s say honeymoon, even with cannabis there is pairing more compliant than others for fertility and grade. lol, but i don’t disagree at all
I don’t need much more to be happy lol
…until release date