Seed Run Co-op: Bodhi's Cheech Wizard **Closed**

[Oldtimerunderground]

Beautiful updates and details, second to none.

Thank you @bodhi for making the seeds, @The_Lazy_Hippie for donating not just 1, but 2 packs for preservation, and @nube for working his magic and providing an unparalleled experience for us to watch, engage in, and enjoy. Not to mention the fruits that will be sent out into the world. You do some fine work, of which I am blessed and honoured to be included

Hope you’re home by now, and all is well. I look forward to seeing the rest of the updates.

[invisible]

Your gardens always look fantastic nube. You have one you’re starting to taking a real liking to yet?

[nube]

Thanks for the kind words, folks.

Here we are at day 21F. First up, the males, which I moved out of the tent because #5 (front right) was starting to drop pollen. I turned off the fans, misted him with water, then pulled the males out of the tent for the last time. I didn’t want #5 to dominate the pollination.

Basically I’m going to keep them out of the tent from now on, in this room with a skylight, and wait until all the males have started dropping pollen before I do the full open pollination in the tent. That way, in theory, all the males have equal chance to spread their genes for maximum genetic preservation.

Here’s the height of the males, in order of that pic from front left, back left, back right, front right, and their approximate stretch in (parenthesis):

Males - #1 46" (50%), #2 48" (50%), #6 44" (50%), #5 40" (50%)

So they’re not super stretchy, even under very red/orange lighting, but they put on enough to have good node spacing. To me, #5 male looks exactly like #8 female (small pot), and the #6 male looks just like the #7 female. I’ll talk more about the males in the next grow update.

As for the females, they were looking good. The ladies were all budding up nicely, with some frosting up a little already (#8 the small one is very frosty, #10 and #11 also frosty already). Getting some very good smells, some green curry-ish scents including sharp cilantro, mint, roasted green chile, garlic and lemon. I’ve only watered them 4 times since flip, just to see if anything unusual occurs from a little plant steering in early flower. Also cuz of gnats.

And here’s a few individual shots, starting with #7 front left - love those fat leaves:

And #8 in the small pot, love those skinny leaves:

Here’s the tall drink of water #9 on the right:

And #10 back left praying to high heaven:

Last but certainly not least, #11 in the back right:

So far I think my favorites are the little lady #8 because she’s just doing it in that tiny pot, what a will to live! And probably #7 with those fat leaves and a little more open, lanky OG structure despite being topped and trained to form a bush. But I’m impressed by how much #10 is praying, and #11 is fast to set buds.

That’s all for now. Next update is going to feature the males so you can see their structure and clusters a little closer.

Happy, heavy, healthy harvests to all!

[LegsMahoney]

looking awesome! i know you’re super busy, but i’d love to hear about your pollination process for my own reference. seeing that you separated the males im assuming you’re going to collect and pollinate by hand, but i’m currently collecting opinions on how i should go about pollinating my current grow when the time comes. all the best!

[Dirtron]

That one heck of an update @nube!

Both the guys and gals are looking good!!!

[Mithridate]

Beautifully done @nube

[ervasagrada]

Holyweed
Amazing plants man

[Brokehoe]

Very nice glad they are happy.

[SonsOfAvery]

Always a pleasure to read your posts @nube
Thanks for all the info and time you’re putting into these!

[NorthNorthNugs]

Loving the updates, very thorough! Also looking forward to the male update. I’ll be looking for pointers with this Goji run. I was always contemplating how to handle the males as I don’t want the most eager males to dominate. Planning on re-running the plants with selects only after getting the open pollination out of the way for the community. Anyway, keep going!

[nube]

So often we don’t get a lot of info about the males used to make the seeds we grow, so I’m trying to take a few pics of them and get a whiff of each, measure their stretch, look at their clusters and growth characteristics to give folks a little closer look at the Cheech Wizard males.

This is day 24F for these guys, and keep in mind that they’ve been out of the tent with nothing more than a skylight for 3 full days+ at this point. More have started dropping pollen, but with no air movement in that room, it hasn’t been stirred up too much.

Here’s the #1 male, the 2nd tallest of the bunch. Oh and FYI the numbers have nothing to do with anything - they’re just sequential from when I labeled the plants back in veg to keep track of them. This guy has what I would consider typical Snow Lotus leaves with a lankier build that corresponds to his slightly open flower structure. Stem rub is sticky and produces a rank smell that reminds me of our kitchen compost bucket if we only dump it but don’t wash it for a few weeks - not exactly rotten but close, and gross. I figured I’d throw it out there:

The #2 male is the tallest of the four, and he’s like the taller, skinnier brother to the #1. This one’s leaves are pretty similar to #1, but his clusters are a little more sparse than #1. Also, his flowers seem to drop less pollen than the others at this point. His stem rub is muted, reminds me of ponderosa bark in the forests up here, and his stem isn’t sticky, more rough and kinda like velcro. He doesn’t really stand out aside from being tall.

The #5 male is the spitting image of the #8 female. He has Snow Lotus shaped leaves that have something special about them - I can’t put my finger on it (pun intended hah! ), a sort of je ne sais quoi that you just know when you see it. This is the shortest guy, but he has big hands. And he’s stacked top to bottom. I don’t care that he started busting a little earlier than the rest because I’m not one that puts much stock in late flowering males vs. early males when the “early” guy is busting at a normal week 4 or 5 timeframe. At that point, I think all the other characteristics are more important. Anyway, this guy’s stem rub is sticky and very earthy, like a wet ashtray, bad breath, black pepper and kitchen herbs, with the faintest hint of something fruity. His clusters are large and sticky and spear shaped, and they’re starting to get some frost already. He also produces a LOT of pollen.

Last but certainly not least, we have the #6 male who is clearly the outlier, with fatty leaves that look like the #7 female. He’s a medium build plant with great space between the nodes, and he’s very branchy. On his very tacky stem rub, I was struck by how much he smells like cloying cologne, spices, and roasted hot peppers. If you’ve ever smelled roasting green chile, imagine that smell mixed with a heavy middle eastern cologne and roasted garlic. This guy has what I would consider a more OG flower structure, with thick and tighter clusters than any of the others. He also has a lot more “popcorn” clusters at nodes, and seems to have more stretch to his branches despite not being as tall. He was also frosty and made a lot of pollen.

After taking these pics and notes, because they all had flowers opening and dropping pollen, I decided to spray them all down with water and chop the top foot off all major branches, then set the tops in a vase of water to completely open and drop pollen so they can all be used for simultaneous open pollination. I delicately put them in with the ladies but they have no wind blowing on them, so the purpose is to just encourage more flowers to open and start releasing pollen. I’ll keep them in with the ladies for at least a week, shaking them daily overtop the ladies with a circulation fan on, but turning off the exhaust fan for an hour or two when I do so, to encourage the most pollination.

So that’s the lowdown on the males. Let me know if you have any questions or if I missed anything important about the technique.

[Brokehoe]

Great write up on males no less. You are right usually the males are over looked.

[LegsMahoney]

I’m burnt on likes right now but that is one of the most comprehensive descriptions I’ve read in a while. So rad. As someone who hasn’t seen a ton of males this is super helpful info to read, thanks for being so thoughtful. Couple things I’d love clarity on if you have the time man:

• I was interested to hear that you don’t place the same stock in the idea of culling an earlier flowering male, if I’m reading correctly you’re saying that the only criteria that would encourage you to discard a make from an open population would if it flowered and began dropping pollen before weeks 4-5? Otherwise any male candidate stays in the mix? Would love to hear more about your thoughts on the idea of culling in general.

• really stoked to get an insight into your pollination process and just wanted to clarify that the only parts of the males that are pollinating then are the tops that you’ve cut off and placed in water? Would love to know the thoughts/theories behind this vs just placing the whole plant in the tent and shaking it. (This piqued my interest because on its face it seemed like it’d be a good way to save space in the flowering tent by not having to accommodate full sized male plants in the mix with the females: I.e. you can pick more ladies into a smaller space)

Killer update, thank you again for being so thorough, I’m realizing there is a much higher standard to a good grow log, feeling inspired to try to step my own game up. All the best

[Abbbian]

Damn!!! These plants are solid!!! Beautiful leaves, buds!! yOuReKilling @nube!!!

@Oldtimerunderground

second to none.

Wisely put OTUG! Beauties!!!

[ShiskaberrySavior]

Some great looking males and extremely healthy . Should be a hell of a party for the girls soon.

[ItsintheGenetics]

Sounds like 1,5 and 6 are the winning males. They are looking good!

[iamyou_youareme]

@nube

This is the shortest guy, but he has big hands.

You know what that means

Thanks for the info as always, that #5 male sounds gross in a good way. It is good to know what to look for in Snow Lotus dominate males, the pics help a lot!

[alola]

Good post. Great job. If you were going for a single male pollination, would you pick #5?

[anon60559124]

#5 if I had to pick

[alola]

Me too. Interesting that it was first to show as one of the first bits of info i read about male selection was to bin the early ones!