Seed run with two females?

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Hey guys I’m doing a seed run on a strain I love but doesn’t really exist anymore.

So, I had 6 total feminized bag seeds of a strain that is gone, the mother died and the company, (Infinite Tree) isn’t making anymore. 4 of my 6 seeds were still green and I started with them first. None of them popped.

So had 2 mature seeds left and I germinated both of them, for a seed run. The seeds are fems, so I need to reverse 1 to male to make seeds with my Toad Venom STS spray.

Well, that’s actually what my question is about.

What’s the best scenario with two fem seeds to get the best representation of the strain?

Should I turn 1 plant male and breed it to the other?

Or would just selfing 1 of the plants give a better representation of the strain?

I’ve heard that selfing can produce a lot of different traits, and I’ve heard the opposite that selfing can be close to cloning as far as making something almost the same as the mother plant.

Or is there a different option?

The Breeder from Infinite Tree said, “I wouldn’t recommend breeding siblings.” I have no idea why she said that, but that was my plan all along!

I have two fem seeds and I need the best representation of the original strain, should I reverse 1 to male and breed them together or self 1 or both, or something else?

Man I’m sorry that was so long, I just wanted to lay it all out there. This strain don’t mean anything to most people, but I love it and I wanna keep it going it’s one of my favorites.

Thanks guys!
Aaron

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If it’s a stable strain selfing one plant would be better imo, if it’s f1 or unstable reverse plant A and pollinate plant B.

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Your best bet would be to self one of them. This will cause it to pollinate itself, producing seeds that are similar to the host plant, but not identical. Cosidering you only have 2 seeds, the current inventory may not yield a phenotype reminiscent of the desired strain characteristics. I personally would start this breeding endeavor with the second generation seeds, and select from them (keeping clones before you sample their flower).

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regardless you will probably get more seeds reversing one and knocking up the other. So if you want a lot of seeds thats the rout.

in reality you would probably still get some seeds from the one you reverse.

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If they’re photoperiod seeds, you could clone both and reverse both and pollinate both with each other.

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Thank you sir it is definitely stable so you’d be in favor of Selfing. Cool thanks!
-Aaron

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Sorry, could you explain a little more about second generation seeds? In my scenario are you saying self the plant and then grow those seeds out looking for a pheno?

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Thanks! Yeah I figured that would make the most seeds, but I can make more later if I need too. What’s most important to me right now is trying to stay as close to the original strain as possible. So with that in mind do you think selfing or reversing 1 to make and breeding the two plants together would make the best results?

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Well, you have a strain you like, but isn’t available anymore, and that you only have 2 seeds from. These seeds may produce offspring not similar to the strain you like. A recessive trait could come out, making it taste completely different, or anything really.

Instead of depleting the genetics, I am suggesting to start with 1 seed only, leaving the other for a backup. With that one seed, take several clones from it, first. Now you have other tries if you don’t get what you want with this try.

As for this try, self it. Let it pollinate itself. Let it produce a bunch of seeds. All of these seeds will be similar to the plant, but not identical like the clones. These all different seeds will exhibit different phenotypes, and it is some of those that have a better chance to show the traits you remember from the strain you like.

So taking those seeds you harvested, you can grow some of them out and sample their flower, but not before cloning those, so you know which clone to breed with.

Phew, hope that was understandable.

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I contemplated doing that, but then wouldn’t I have two separate genetic lines at that point?

A crossed to B and B crossed to A

And if they are in the same tent, A to A and B to B as well?

Then what? Throw all the seeds in the same container like they are the same? I think that seems a bit off, but maybe not?

Thoughts?

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If you do 4 lines of it like

A x B
B x A
A x A
B x B

Then store them in different containers and grow them out, keep the good phenos and continue or cross them back to the A or B clone if they have favorable traits you want to lock in.

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Absolutely thanks, that’s exactly what I should do.

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See this is why I come here. I love this place. Thanks!

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