Let’s say there are six breeders sending packages to the four distributors, that would be 24 packages. Now they send them to MOTR (6 packages) and then MOTR sends them to the rest of distributors (3 packages). As you see, there’s a big difference, not only in costs but also packages could be seized or lost.
And how come a breeder knows how many yanks, canuks, brits or EU are they to count seed packs sent? I believe it is better that just one trustable and reliable person (as MOTR is) has all the information, I mean real names, addresses, Paypal accounts, who is yank, canuk, brit, EU …
I am sorry for all the people that hasn’t received their package yet, but there’s no reason to change a system that has been working fine so far.
I hope Sebring could contact MOTR, rescue and distribute the hopefully remnant seeds and organize next run until MOTR finally recovers some normality on her life, the structure must remain the same …
True, but then there is the “don’t put your eggs all in one basket” theory, in terms of distributors, or packages. The chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link, and if the chain has multiple paths or connections around the vulnerable link then the chain is stronger overall
not sure if you saw this post, which addresses all the concerns you brought up.
I’ll explain again to clarify.
George, it isn’t working fine as is. You are not being realistic. Sorry to put it bluntly, but changes must be made, or international distribution cannot continue. Momontherun is incommunicado. As it stands, European and international members are completely cut off from any future projects.
No one is going to ship any more seeds to momontherun until we hear from her.
You are relying on one member for a lot of work. I don’t think we are likely to find someone else willing to take on that much work and responsibility, and frankly, I don’t think anyone should.
It would be a simple matter for you and the other international distributors to coordinate with a new international liaison, and let them know how many packs of each strain you will need based on the number of members in each region, and which seed runs those members signed up for.
The breeders would send all of their stock for international distribution to this “international liaison” located in the US. The liaison would get information from the international distributors to tell them how many packs are needed of each strain. The liaison would divide up the seeds of all the stock they received from breeders, and combine them into a single package for each international distributor. They will send 1 box to each international distributor, containing the correct amount of seeds, as requested.
Right, it’s just what happens when that one person disappears, or dies in a random accident, or whatever in life randomly comes up as it usually does at some point. Everyone is left (not)high and dry.
If 5 or 6 packages get sent out and something comes up with one distributor, the others are still going out and we can figure out how to get the one’s that got missed due to whatever reason.
And anyone in the co-op can see how many are people are signed up, breeder included, there’s your pack numbers. And the breeder would just contact each distributor and ask them how many packs they need for their members. Can easily verify the total number of packs against the number of people signed up on the coop list. Package up your boxes and send em out. Idk, that’s all i got real quick.
alternatively, the international distributors could contact sebring and see if he is willing to handle that responsibility as well.
I think having a U.S. to international liaison to relay all completed projects to the international distributors is a good way to reduce the load on sebring, and to distribute labor and responsibility.
This is exactly what I did with the goroka. I honestly don’t know how this became such a significant issue. If you have seeds to distribute, contact the distributors, or don’t. Totally and complete up to the person who made the seeds.
Throwing pollen around and shucking seeds is not the end of the job. It’s each individuals own responsibility to contact the distributors and get the seeds on the way.
@nube If you want to send it to only one person, and that person handles the rest, that’s up to you. If you want to send em out in batches just to increase redundancy, fricken great idea, contact who you need to contact.
Exactly. We are all co-op members, all equal. You can make arrangements as you see fit.
I would encourage people to leave a note in this thread (for clarity and transparency) when important decisions are made between breeders and distributors.
zephyr, I agree with Sebring being temporarily receptor of future seed runs and international distribution if he wishes to do so. I don’t like that direct breeder-distributor connection because they would know my real name and address, and the accountancy would be a mess, as I should not report to that breeder and third person involved should compare breeders data and mine.
Breeder doesn’t know who is yank, cannuk or brit while reading the list, only Admin and OG Team presumely have that data, so I don’t imagine them asking who is who each time.
not sure where that came from. But then thinking about what you are getting at …
Breeder → Continent Distributor → other distributors → recipients
would be the most efficient perhaps. The logistics of who has what address and info then is reduced to distributors and does not lie all with one person. If seeds get lost perhaps only one breeder loses that way. Or one package meant for a distributor and not all the eggs in one basket.
Nope, I was referring to the breeders directly sending to the international distributors, if we discard that option we will be a step ahead in this discussion, I completely trust Sebring, no prob there …
So that means I am receiving them from my distributor, not the breeder, agree with that. Shall we discard the breeder => international distributor direct connection for good?
George, you can opt out of this method of receiving seeds without telling everyone else that they need to opt out, as well.
The benefit to this option is if one package doesn’t arrive somewhere it has no bearing on the rest of the packages. Your preferred option includes a single point of potential failure.
Well, there’s one “setup” that Sebring is just the “international link” for rest of distributors, other version (upon you) is Sebring being US distributor, which is the good one?
We can’t answer that question until we arrive at that bridge.
We have already established that you don’t want to use one of the two methods so I suggest you use the other. Anyone else should be limited by their own decisions. Not ours
