Hello!
Its me again and yet another issue!
This is the state of my plants:
I have been using all of these:
Now this is how i do things:
I put the watter into my 20l bucket
I ph my watter to about 5.8 using the ph down
i use 1mll per litre of the callmag. Ca Mg (3 : 1)
I wait for a day with it.
When I watter I add 3mll of the fertilizer per 1l on every wattering N4 P0 K6,5
the lights are 30cm (11.81inch) from the plants running at 100% they are mars hydro ts1000 150w lights I have been running them for a few days at 11/13 trying to achieve faster flowering.
The temp in the tent is about 25c(77f) (its summer)
I have a fan in the tent thats running all the time so thez get air everywhere.
I watter when I see the soil is getting dry thats aprox once every two days.
The poor plants have been stuck in preeflower for weeks. I kinda don’t know what else to do but clearly something is very wrong…
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When did you flip to flower?
They are eating heavy during the stretch it looks like to me…did you up your nutrients when you began flower? Or is this the same amount of feed you gave during veg?
Also, i would say that lower canopy isnt getting enough light penetration because it looks thick in there…leds, arent super great at penetration and so shaved legs or really thorough defoliation is pretty necessary, IMO
Others will chime in soon im sure as well with some help!
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I swapped my fertilizer for the flowering one, sadly I couldt get the same brand… I also started to add cal mag.
should i trim them at the top?
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They are yellowing down under the main canopy from a lack of light. Only trim the bottoms, they arent getting enough light down there. I trim everything below the halfway point,so the bottom half of the plant is bald. Leave the biggest/ thickest growing tips, because those will yield large buds, but trim everything else… the more you trim from the bottom, the larger your buds will be at the top… all the energy will get focused into the growing tips instead of distributing across all that larfy mess that will grow down there
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The lower branches are not seeing enough light ( I agree with the above comments )
Defoliated and clean up the underside
This chart shows the amount of ppms you should be feeding at during each stage
I like to feed on the light side myself !
Also I stop calmag during flower if you’re going to continue calmag go lite on it
Use Epson salt for minerals
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If you wish to discuss feeding schedule
What to feed at what npk and when please don’t hesitate to ask
Or have questions on the chart I left just ask
How’s the ph level ?
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Okay so defoliating means taking off the branches and everything?
well yes i would love to discuss it i currently feed everyday cuz that is what is stated on the fertilizer.
as for the npk i was told that the current fertilizer is a okay for flowering from the dude in the store.
the ph is at 5.8 i did have some nutrient lock cuz i wasnt phing and when i started to do that the original problems went away and these new ones appeared.
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Heres an example from one of my grows
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Typically you’d start with the sugar leaves. Dead/dying foliage. You can trim out branches, but doing so removes budsites- so unless they’re unhealthy, I probably wouldn’t. The exception might be the bottom ones
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Most like to defoliate weeks 1 and 3 after flip also depending on the plant growth I also will do a lite defoliation week 5
I also have a rule if it blocks light or air movement it goes
Anything below the top 1 foot before the stretching goes so the energy it would use goes to the bud sites that will get the better light ( and actually amount to something )
Now that said remember leaves are the engine behind the plant so removing bud sites vs leaves is a great start ( I also remove fingers rather then the whole leaf )
Branches that will never amount to much remove ( waste of energy )
Hopefully this helps
Just trying to be helpful
Not sure how you grow ( soil, hydro, sips )
And if you follow a feeding schedule or not
I use jacks and it’s easy to reach npk needed for each faze of the grow
Example early veg npk 1/1/1 low ppm
Mature plants late veg 1/1/1 npk but add Epson salts and calmag and increase ppm’s
Stretch 1/1/1 with Epson salts no cal mag ppms like 650 to 750
Flower ( when you see buds forming) early week 3 through 5
10/30/20 npk add booster drop cal mag
Week6/7
Mid flower npk should be 1/4/4
Week 8 till done
Late flower npk 1/2/5 till finish
Increase ppms as you go and
About week 9 lower ppm and faze out feed
Just my 2 cents
It works for me
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okay i went to work and trimmed all the bad leaves and bottom stuff that was tiny and pale. I hope i didnt kill my babies
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Also I had some old leaves in the tent and i noticed a bunch of mold on em, i honestly didnt look at em at all so i took everything out and gave the floor a proper cleaning!
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They will be fine! Looks good. You can do even more like look down from the light perspective…stuff thats two three layers deep of just leaves, you can take those out every other one or wwhatever.
Give it a couple days, up the nutes a bit as others suggested, make sure you ph, and watch the grass grow 
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I had to take em out and do it and i stank up the whole house so i have to do that another day xD.
Il give em more nutrients not a problem at all!
Im still amazed how they stretched they x3 in size imo 
so yeah maybe i underfed, il up my feeding by about 50%
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Looks a bit too wet in the medium. Might be getting overwater with nute lockout?
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I just wattered them a few hours before. I watter them once the soil is dry and i put about 1,2l of watter on each.
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Also what I noticed is the roots are peeking at the bottom.
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Time to up pot or prune the roots
I vote up pot big plants big harvest
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Careful, they are in flower near end of stretch
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You did a great job with the guidance and experience of the Ogers.
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