Smoking vs Vaping

I’m thinking fish for dinner as a ritual… and we can call it Cormorant Day to make it thematically apropos. I like fish, and sometimes I’d like to just fly away; it all fits!

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If you also have webbed toes then the stars have definitely aligned :joy:

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Not yet, but I’ll work on it. Maybe I’ll get lucky and the forever chemicals in our water will give me some cool mutation like webbed toes or the ability to breathe fire instead of something boring, and deadly, like plain old cancer.

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Here is some information I pulled from Royal Queen Seeds regarding activated charcoal smoking filters:

“The usefulness of carbon filters does not stop at growing cannabis. Activated charcoal filters are popular in cigarettes, [joints, and spliffs] as a great way to adsorb any gas-phase toxins present in the plant material, such as hydrogen cyanide, ammonia, and crotonaldehyde. If you are worried about the filter removing precious [cannabinoids] from the smoke, don’t be. The activated charcoal only adsorbs harmful compounds in the smoke, bigger in size than [THC] and other cannabinoids.”

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How many regular bowls of anything else to CripXmas ? So in addition to knowing how rigorous this filter can be used in a day’s period. I now have a potency baseline to go by and, at 17 bowls smoked a mix of everything, Corn, NL2, Maui A that’s minty, TC A, TCNL2 I’ve reached what CripXmas does in one roll…

@Tejas I appreciate that, and it may be residual, still the carbon pieces are neutral fresh and it’s not charcoal, this is coconut carbon.

I don’t know if I feel safe inhaling past 10 bowls per. I’m going to judge it accordingly past and if anything is off in taste, I’m dumping, so it could be OK. A stoner gets used to SMELLING the food they forget about in the fridge :rofl: I apply same principle here, but as long as flavor isn’t diminished I’ll keep it, once it shows I’ll dump at X bowl. The GOOD part is the pipe hadn’t needed to be cleaned. So to me this factors in to the pros of heavy use.

17…the night is young. Where will I end up before I pass out…

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Bowl 19 average 3-5 hits per, so extrapolate

Carbon, water change out. Clean filter of gunk. Carbon smells of ammonia. Smell filter, ammonia lingers. Smell bottom joint inside bottom chamber, yes ammonia again. So after 19 bowls, whatever is giving off this ammonia odor has to be completely washed and deodorized. 1/2 the bag that comes WITH the adapter has been used in a 12 hr period, requiring 2 change outs of water/carbon fill. NOW this ammonia is concerning, so point me to safe use charcoal. Maybe charcoal is better than coconut. I’m not impressed with the coconut, especially IF that’s the source of ammonia.

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As I read this quote, it suggests the ammonia is coming from burning toxins in the plant material -

That’s a real possibility.

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Well the first 10 bowls were clean burning as I kept saying but after, it stopped smoking clean. The pipe didn’t need cleaning until 19. I don’t know if I should expect the material to continue to absorb past 10. What I do know is a resinated bong doesn’t smell like ammonia. It’s certainly not pleasant to smell but a danger signal like ammonia never happens, so I can’t say it’s combustion. It’s the coconut doing this after a certain amount of use

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Maybe once the charcoal absorbs a certain amount of toxins, it starts reeking of them

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Coconut shell, not charcoal. Yes it absorbs to a certain point smoked though, then filtration stops and must be changed out. Looks like it averages 2 for water and coconut.

Is it comin from the use of butane in your lighter

https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Ammonia_production

The ammonia always being there but going unnoticed into lungs but now it’s being captured in carbon
And exposed for us to smell in concentrated form ( carbon doin it’s job )
I use herbiron ?

Butane plus nitrogen = ammonia ???

Can you use something else today to see ie hemp wick or a simple wooden coffee stirrer lit ? To rule out the intense use of the lighter / butane

I can blind taste if joint lit with lighter or herbiron very noticeably after using herbiron regularly , the butane taste goes unnoticed with lighter users as it’s always been there for them and they accustomed to it hiding in the background

There will be an explanation for it , just need a science guy to chime in : )
Interresting @OriginalDankmaster96

Maybe reducing n in flower and flushing at end a good thing after all ??? Lowering n in final product
You could be on to something : )

@Northern_Loki ?

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Active carbon, afaik, could be repurposed by heating it to a certain temp in your oven, but re-activating active carbon that has been used to fetch the stench from your grow, will release ALL of that stench into your oven, so your house will reek of your grow for a week. Aside from that, there’s more than smell running through that filter. There’s dust particles running through it too, and they get stuck in your carbon medium.

I wouldn’t use used filter carbon.

BUT. Aquatic shop carbon is some of the purest active carbon money can buy. Fish are very sensitive and their owners are too when their fish get sick so the carbon in aquapurification should be stellar. It would highly surprise me if it didn’t work.

Source: I took a Koi and fish health class from a fish doctor once because my father has a Koi pond but he has a degenerative nerve condition so I have to do whatever he doesn’t have the power for anymore. The Koi doctor had a tank of living coral, I shit you not. Beautiful to watch!

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If I phone aquatics shops
What do I ask for and why do I say I want it , to sound like a fish guy , knowing the lingo so I don’t stand out @Wizzlez
What price quality and brand am I lookin for etc

Just tell em your aquarium filter carbon needs replacing, or, what’s even easier, just use google to find a seller that’ll ship it for the same price and stick to your beanbag. It’s colloquially called aquarium filter carbon pellets and a lot of aquarium filters use it. Most probably. Pond filters use different stuff.

Brand and price, see what google throws at you! I can find 10 liter bags for 45 bucks shipped where I’m at. But I’m in Europe I have no idea how pricing in the US will be, though I would think it’s similar.

I’m eu too : ) thankyou for the heads up on terminology , adds confidence to my phone call : )

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Any brand will do probably. Just look for the cheap pelletized aquarium carbon. It’ll work as long as it’s granules or pellets

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And it’s all activated , no reason for them to sell non activated ( stupid question probably but just askin to be sure )
@Wizzlez
: )

Edit : had a look on eBay , plenty to choose from : )

well unless you’re buying charcoal for the BBQ :laughing:

Every carbon meant for filtering is activated carbon as far as I know. No reason to sell non-activated. Not for fish use anyway.

Birds could use regular carbon but it fulfills the same function activated does. They pick it up in nature too whenever their digestion needs it.

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My only related knollage is they give it to animals to absorb poison in their stomachs and also , let the coals go all white befor cooking over them lol

I can get this delivered today. Someone asked if it can light a bowl and the consensus was yes…thoughts ?

【Upgraded】 Dual Arc Electric Candle Lighter Rechargeable USB Lighter Plasma Arc Lighters for Candle (Obsidian Black) https://a.co/d/395d4ko

Will this work ? If yes, I need to order both items and restart the test tomorrow as it can only be delivered tomorrow. My throat is blown out for the day, so I’m resting

Kolar Labs Crystal Cal Activated Carbon – Small Jar, Activated Charcoal for Aquariums and Fish Tanks https://a.co/d/g6mXlPO

Edit : I’ve ordered both, so unless someone says differently, this is what I’ll go with for tomorrow

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