Solo to SIP VEG to FLIP

Hello Everyone, a quick introduction, I’ve been growing consistently since 2004(Club Card) outdoor to start, but currently growing indoor only. I miss the HUGE hauls you can get from outdoor product, and massive amounts of littles to make into Rosin, but times change and Outdoor isn’t an option unfortunately. All good, this Indoor diet is treating me Riot. :grin:

I started out indoor with Smart pots, mainly 5 gallon, but a few runs on 7’s. They treated me well for many (cycles) years, longer VEG times, but still ended up with what I was looking for. I have my 2 Sunset Sherbert clones in the 2x4 Gorilla Lite in the 7gal smarties I haven’t used for quite some time. Unfortunately, this is the 4th run on the clone, and she decided to go slightly herm this 4th round so it’s the LAST (picked them off and fine but not going any further with this one). Bummer enjoyed her for over a year, but it’s time to go down the road.

Currently for about the last 2 years (give or take), I’ve been rockin’ these grobucket inserts, I bought a 10 pack (3 unused still in the box) for 120 or something, not sure if you can get them anymore in bulk form, but 3 were 40 or 50 bucks and I needed 6 so I went for 10 since price is about the same and I get extras. I do roughly 2-3 cycles a year, no Summers usually, last year I did dip into early July to finish up and I’m not used to that and not a fan.

Back on track, so I bought some Camo Buckets and went to work with these SIP inserts. I used to work for a tropical plant house in the 90’s and used wicks for Spath plants back in the day, water only tho’, they do fine, adding food, rope wicking (we used wicking strips) isn’t the way and will clog up fast. I had also used wicks for vegging plants(water only) while I’m away on vacay over the years and did great, but never for bloom. I remember reading HT magazine and seeing the Earthboxes and always wanted a shot at those. I decided on the inserts since I grow 3 -4 zone plants on the regular. I do grow 2 plants in a 2x4 as well,just depends. The buckets do better with 3 smaller plants than 2 bigger ones, can be done, but I do lightly feed them on the passive hydro level too. Hydro/Organics is the way I’m telling you. I have chopped 10 days off of VEG time with same or better results(and less work). Once your plant gets used to the SIP from the solo cup in about 5-7 days, the next two weeks will be incredible growth.

A little about my soil, it orginally started with HP Pro Mix, castings, and extra perlite along with, crab, neem,kelp,fishbone, and alfalfa meal mainly. Minerals are SRP, Gypsum, and OSF, along with glacial rock dust (been using the longest) and azomite or A-Z. This soil has been recycled at least 5 or 6 times, I’ve lost track at this point. I add about 1/2 -3/4 of a cup of amendments to the 5 gallon bucket preparing for transplant, no additional cooking required this low of amendments, and definitely add perlite and vermicompost/castings(I prefer a two cup casting layer on top with a little mixed in then wheat straw). Recycled soil WILL get dense, and seedlings won’t like it, and aeration is a must for the inserts. I add about a half cup of my minerals mixed in and there she goes. OFF and running, a compost tea to jumpstart the buckets is a bonus and well worth it. The buckets hold about 3/4’s of a gallon, a tad more completely empty. Alright, it’s time to get some things done before, tonight, yawl be Green to One Another and I’ll get back to more information and data on these buckets. I flip em’ in 35 days from surface when I grow 3 per 2x4 and they go WILD. Happy New Years EVE, cya on the FLIP side. :v:

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I scored a 3 pack of the Grobuckets last spring on a great clearance deal (now I wish I got more… :laughing:)

Looking forward to see how your grow unfolds.

Cheers
G

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I got a 10 pack of them as well and also purchased the float valve kit to add a res. Only have five of them set up, but was really happy with them!

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Hi Smokey. I’m pulling up a chair. And also have some grobucket inserts (3) that I use from time to time.
:canada: :green_heart:

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Nice profile pic

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I’m telling you, for a fairly small pot, you can push them pretty hard (passive hydro/organic… OMY) with small amounts of liquid feed(organic). My last grow that finished in July was 2 plants that almost hit 12 zips on a medium yielding Sunset Sherb clone(s).




Pictures do no justice, pardon my 2010 camera, but believe me, when it takes a long time to debone buds, I’M happy right away.

SCROG style, only Aloe,Yucca, and labs added nothing additional. You can see the difference without light feedings.



The flowers are just thicker, hard to tell, but bigger and dense, Sunset Sherb gives up many medium blooms, not a strain for big colas (Current clones are manifolded for 8, same deal, medium size).
It’s too bad about this one, 4th cycle, had some late nanners pop, quite a few so she’s DONE after this current round. We all love this one, but it’s time to move on from her, not seeing any seed sites, but I’m sure I’ll get a few it happens from time to time with Fem seeds. I’ve been fortunate over the years and haven’t experienced too many, but murphys law NO doubt.

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I have seen the float valve kit for these, did you run the kit with the 5 run setup? I’m so happy with just adding to the RES every other day, but You could easily rig a few 1/4 tube lines to these for simplicity, I have an old kit in my garage for vacation watering for house plants, battery operated and a bucket, were you rocking just water only?

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I didn’t even use them… I did install the float valves, just in case, but ended up not setting up a res. And since they close when it’s full, there was no downside to installing them initially :person_shrugging:t2:
Yeah, just water.

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Welcome aboard, SIP’n and a drinkin’, O yeah… Don’t think you can’t do this on a budget setup. My 2x2x4 under the Vipar 1000 hit 130g SCROGed at 38 days from surfacing from substrate. 100 watts for 130g, pretty easy Math there and I’ll take it.



Purple spots here and there, trouble free, no light deficiencies, smooth transaction. :laughing:

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Thank you kind Sir, I had some Scraggles of Sweet Zombie that were frozen and turned into bubble hash… to Bubble Rosin. DEEwishess!

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Random SIP photo bomb session…






Oh Boy… she was stunner, I believe she was Herijuana Jack




Sunset Sherb nugz, DAMN she is FIYA!

Current Ongoing Grow Below:


Oh yeah, time to get her out of there


Healthy and upset, check the droop


Solo to SIP 10.9.24… 9.21.24 plant date, all popped in 3 or 4 days, call it the 25th


3 days Later… you can see the Sour O still a bit upset with slight droopiness(all good), 4 SIPs are CSI gear… Sour O, two Wedding Cakes, and Head Up and the two Sunset Sherb clones.


Bye Bye Droopy Sour O, adjusting nicely to the SIP, alright we will leave it be for a bit, I’ll get this baby caught up. Be Green to One Another! :green_heart:

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Lunch breaks over, a few dry herb vape hits off of the old tried and true vaporbros box… been putting in work since 08, only upgrades I did years ago was a ceramic screen and a metal catch screen for anything that makes it thru. Wonderful flavor and a clean high, one of my favorite ways to consume NO doubt.


One Week Later… 10.21.24 All plants were topped for 4 mains Day 20 or 21 from breaking ground.


10.27.24, you can see they are getting there bondage/training going on. Hindsight being 20/20, I should have adjusted the stakes one more time before flip. AHwell… next time


Two Sunset clones coming out of the makeshift pot, I had no room for anything bigger so… used what we have. This is day of transplant to a 7gal smartie.

11.3.24 Girls are getting bushy (Flipped 10.30.31 … left to right… Sour O, Wedding Cake, Heads Up aka 56 X Loompa


11.12.24, getting wild in there, I had to get kinky with multiple branches, they grew into the lights, and I had to rearrange my setup to accommodate.

Oh, I forgot the baby Wedding Cake 38 days to Switch, a bit of a runt/dwarf, but no worries, they usually become your favorite… soft spot for the underdog… Always.

11.19.24… OMY Amazonian in there.





Same here since 4 ft tall tent, kinked some branches, I usually SCROG the mini tent for precautionary reasons and training even canopies, but I didn’t, and it is what it is.

3 weeks in… 11.20.24 crazy bushes shading out nodes, SO… defol HERE we GO





Bye Bye November (I do have a 29th Update left), Hello December… Be back SOON!

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11.29.24







Same Order Sour O, WC, and Heads Up

And the baby of the bunch WC 12.1.24 pic, this tent is 3 days behind the 2x4x5


Non SIP tent, 7gal smarties still do the trick

12.6.24 I will continue with the same order


And the baby again


12.9.24 Sour O clone getting her S&M on… I didn’t keep any of the other plants as a possible keeper, not sure about this one either yet since it isn’t finished in real time

I dig the knuckles

12.11.24… OH boy, changes are happening, early on there were a few tops hitting over 110,000 lux (grew almost into the QB132’s) which is way too much, wasn’t for very long, but it did fry a few leaves a touch, nothing major, just aesthetically displeasing.








These babies stretched like crazy, the Heads Up is over 40" tall and the others in the 38-39in range. First time this has happened in these SIPS at 35 days Flip.


12.14.24 Sour O clone chopped for 8


12.16.24…She’s tiny, maybe 4in tall 4.5 on a good day


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12.19.24










12.21.24 Low on LABS so I split the rest between 2 jars for 1 full jar after curd is separated






12.24.24 Squished up the Dry Bubble, this is the 120/90/73 and 45, all looked nice, the 25 usually doesn’t make the cut and this run was no exception.


12.26.24 Almost there, like a fast forward grow journal almost :rofl:







Tough to see, but she’s chopped for 16 nodes, training is finished for this one and was perfect to slow this plant down to be ready for the next round.

Break time, hmmmm… bong rip or Dab hit… probably BOTH. :boom:

P.S since I’m growing mainly CSI gear this round and ONLY CSI gear this upcoming round… I’ve added some of these photos to the CSI thread. :v:

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Alright cannabis cultivators, hope you enjoyed the intro, but… LETS GO. So, I ended on the 26th of December, I apologize for my absence, just been crazy busy beginning this new year. I’ve made a few posts to the SIP and CSI thread, but that’s about the extent of my presence lately. On with the SHOW (throws tomato at the host). :rofl:

OH, what do we have here, an early bird special going on or what.

Both TK’s (12/28)… UP in three Days :sunglasses:

Early morning 12/29 under 12 hours later Real Time



Welcome Aboard both Chemdog 91’s, been wanting to grow this one for quite some time, bucket list sort of deal.

And the other two GDP’s maybe a half hour later on the 29th trying to break ground.


And there you have it… my new round of plants, two of each, all 3 strains have been on my Radar a long time, I just made a ton of GDP seeds from Ken too, then the Christmas sale with CSI, I ordered GDP and they hit me with my two wishlist hitters with TK #1 and Chemdog 91 my second choice. Merry Christmas to me for sure, it’s going to be a wonderful Spring/Summer enjoying this when I shut it down for a bit. Then I use a tent or two for different projects.

12.30 pic below group shot, I use small dome for germination, as soon as they pop all the way, I open vents, if they respond well, pop her lid like a convertible top.

Here is what was sent, I did the math and it’s like 2.50 a seed :blush:

Sour O clone chopped and trained


for 16, I’ve never went these many nodes, always 8 in the past, so should be interesting. Same date 12.30

You can see in the pic above I’ve been pinching the right main since it’s higher on the main stem trying to be dominant by nature.

That’s it for now, more to come soon, I have some gorgeous shots on New Years Eve of the Sour O, Wedding Cakes, and Heads Up. Keep Em’ Green Folks

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12.31 again, some of these photos are in the CSI or SIP thread, but most are first upload. Same order… Left to Right SourO, Wedding Cake, and Heads Up




Above plants are on auto pilot at this juncture, a couple plain water fills and let the pots dry out a bit for the last few days or so.

And the baby of the run Wedding Cake, but WoW is she going to be my favorite, almost a guarantee


1.4.25 almost there, you can see the light burn in a few shots, especially the Sour O that took the biggest hit.






1.6.25 check out the Sour O clone getting bushy again, no more chopping so just letting her fill out, the plant is only 4.5 inches tall or a bit more, it’s under 5" even with leaves poking up, but the nodes are lower.


Alright cannabis consumers, 10 days left to being up to date and the next update will be harvest on 1.7.25 (Day 70) of the 2x4x5 Enoy the little things in life and be green to one another.

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1.7.25 Sour O momma getting the AXE




Heads UP…





And the Wedding Cake





Cya 2x4x5, I remove one of the 6" intakes to turn the tent into a dry room and turn off the fans. I turn the speed controller down all the way and that’s it, wait for 6-7 days usually and dry enough to go to jars without buds getting wet or moist in the jar. Small nugs should snap off the stem, and bigger ones might be a little tacky/sticky but feel dry on the outside. Check big fan leaves as well, if they are still too limp and tacky, give the plants a bit longer. Alrightie… that’s my time and 2 cents worth. :grin:

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1.9.25… time to get the 2x2x4 tent finished up.





1.11.25 Sour O clone adjusting nicely to her new home the EB Jr. (2 days) 16 headed monster is going to have a ton of nodes to give.


1.13.25 finally getting to the buckets to throw back into the garbage can to recycle and get the soil ready in a few months. I leave all the roots except the main stem, but all fibrous roots are left to break down and recycle back. You will see a few worms here and there, I didn’t intentionally add them, it just happens with my worm bins and outdoor compost with eggs and recycling so long. I screen my compost, and they still make it past the 1/4" finish. I thought about adding more worms, but I figured let nature do its thing. :wink:

I had this update started last night, but had to bail due to a loud noise, all good, who knows it didn’t happen again. Anyway, check out the root pics, 1.13.25

Check out the casting layer at the bottom, you can see a worm to the right(and another to the left).


I’m holding it up with one hand under the root where the insert used to be. SIP pots are always a BRICK of a root system.


1.14.25 Sour O Clone starting to LIKE the EB Jr

1.14.25 A couple newly transplanted Solo’s to the SIP Upset from being in the cup a tad long, my timing was about a day or two off, so I’m cycling well these days but like I always say… there is always room for improvement


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The only two that weren’t upset as much is the GDP in the upper right corner, and the TK middle front row. No worries they will bounce back fast. Solo Roots Luv SIPPY cups :rofl:

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AND… we are Back. I just wanted to point out that the smaller GDP is a mutant, it didn’t grow its first set of leaves right away, then just popped out the single big weird 2 blade leaf you see in the left bottom corner. It’s growing fine now, but the last time I grew out a mutant, I wanted to keep it, so I’ll keep an eye on this one. Also, these were vegged with a very old Mars light with just the Veg option on, and the plants definitely grew slower and not as thick. I just wanted to test it really, and it worked, but smaller solo plants to start no doubt. Won’t matter tho’, the SIP’s will rectify all that REAL soon. :joy:

1.16.25 already perking up two days later.

And the Sour O clone really starting to kick in. I cleaned her up a bit and I topped the front two nodes the night before, two dominate nodes taking over so I fixed that. Those nodes will still probably be the biggest ones anyway. Timer switched… LETS DO THIS!



1.17.25 3 days in the SIP

And Last night the 18th of January, at this point I have done nothing. I don’t put water in the tank until day 7. The buckets start needing water around 5.5 days or so. Usually when I wait, the bucket will take up two leaves(on the bobber) worth right away, which is half the bucket, or half of 3/4’s of a gallon fully empty.

1.18.25 last entry and current. OMY does that feel amazing. Hope ya’ll enjoy the SIP show. :laughing:


And the clone two days in Bloom just doing her thing. She went a week in the EB Jr to acclimate, couldn’t go any longer being an older plant with a huge root system (and a 4ft tall tent). It was in a #3 nursery pot so roughly 2.25gal girl already so I had to loosen some of the soil and work her into the the JR (big round pot and a narrow rectangular EB not ideal) with a mound. I couldn’t use the cover, so I used a white trash bag and a little black duct tape.

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Update time, so I topped the 2 TK’s and the Chemdog 91’s, but the GDP’s aren’t quite ready, but will be in half a day or so. You can see the mutant GDP is coming out of it and catching up, she also popped out the tiniest of nodes eventually that stayed small. Won’t matter, she will be chopped for 4 regardless. Light is off for the Sour O, but I’ll get an updated pic, she’s going wild in the EB Jr. Keep em’ Green

Lower left and Upper Right (GDP)

P.S a touch of light burn from being under the weak mars light (about 80 watts with veg only switch), and over to the 3500k. Minor, but once trained and defol before Flip, most of the original leaves are gone anyway. The Chem in the upper left corner, and TK in the lower right corner took the hit the worst. The analytical eye SEEs everything. :grin:

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Bump Up this thread here, took a few snaps of the Sour O last night, and I topped the bigger GDP momma this morning. I also thinned out the bottom nodes of the baby GDP, she is close to topping for 4. I also gave the SIP buckets a half gallon each since it’s been a week. That’s it, 5 plants topped, 1 waiting and the Sour O clone is about a week into Bloom. Keep Em’ Green and Frosty Folks

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