I’m ignorant when it comes to sts…If I had a clone only strain and spray sts on it, will I get different phenos on the feminized seeds? Sorry for the newbie question…
grow out the clone to get another clone. take your first clone and start spraying 5 days before flower. at lights out, or turn your lights off
keep spraying every five days at lights out.
spray 2 weeks after seeing nuts form or until you see pollen
collect pollen, put 2nd clone in flower get female seed of that strain, keep it. run another plant in with it, turn your fans on and spread pollen
I believe you lose the elite cut genetics, you just end up with fem beans. Had that been possible to lock an elite cut that simply we would see many offerings for such elite cuts in seed form.
That’s my understanding anyway…
It will depend on how homozygous the clone is for the traits you want.
Ok, that’s the answer I was looking for…I was a clone only strain whore back in the day and I was growing a lot of clone only strains…Nowadays I see a lot of clone only strains in seed form…Are people using sts to create seeds from clone only strains these days?
Maybe they are doing that and then backcrossing to the original clone.
I think it will depend on the stabilization of the strain u r working
One of my favorite clone only strains was Matanuska Thunder Fuck…People say that Alaskan Thunder Fuck is the same as Matanuska Thunder Fuck guess what folks it’s not…I also had Blue Dream when it was clone only, how did they make seeds outa Blue Dream?
If you s1 it you will open up the genepool of phenos. If you reverse clone only and hit another clone only of a different strain thats different. A lot of fire comes from playing fire with fire. Reversing the known fem clone and hitting another known female with its pollen
yeah blue dream is clone only and was for some time, i remember it way back. then one day i woke up and every one was selling it. it was a west coast cut if i remember right, but thats been a bit.
and yep sometime clone only are where its at,
so say if i was making blue dream, i would run the cut, work it and show it love,
spray on a clone i liked with sts, get my female seed. run those and find the winner. now i have seed but not in regs so i ll take something else that i would think was in the blue dream recipe so to say, find my male and breed it out, now i have my regs, but then i will stabilize it into a blue dream and sell it, now you say this will take a long time to do years and years, , i say not unless your a huge breeder with a big budget and lots working for you, now you get that going with in a year and make your money world wide. huge breeders. shame shame.
but long story short, keeping the clone around for awhile will be one of the best ways to make seed
santa cruz cut blue dream is the one. Im sure its been s1d but know its been crossed to a lot of things. It is in blueberry hasplant its bd santa cruz cut x 88g13hp. Someone on here running some now.
I would love to try some of your s1 @PhilCuisine , I say go for it : )
I took all my clone only strains and bred them to other strains…I have my own personal crosses of my clone only strains…Hope this helps.
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I’m curious too.
I got a cut of Kosher Kush I’m in the middle of running with STS. My goal is to preserve this strain as I’ve been keeping a mother going for over a year and want a stable backup (also sharable).
I sprayed on the 1st day of flip, and have been spraying down every 5 days 1hour before lights off so the plants dry before I put them back into the tent. This was done a total of 5x and I have a tonne of 's on the sprayed plants so I know it worked.
How viable will the pollen be is Q#1, and then how close to the original plant with the S1 seeds be is Q#2.
Regardless, having seeds is still better than NOT having seeds.
I have yet to see anyone grow an S1 that was just like its parent. There are a few folks whos whole seed making business is reversing clone onlys and spreading the pollen around. With those folks I have noticed a huge amount of herm reports from people who grew them.
Reversing and selfing have their place . Their place just isn’t in my garden lol
I totally respect that and appreciate that you understand that not everything is for everyone.
For example I like my coffee black. Put sugar in it for ME and I’ll slap you; however I ask 20 questions when preparing your coffee to make sure you get what YOU wanted.
I certainly get why people grow fems and also get why people want to grow clone onlys in seed form. I just don’t have the constraints to make me need to pop fems and have never seen or heard of someone finding something as good or better from S1’s.
Many of the older OG cuts are what was found in s1 of OG Kush/Ghost
Very good point . I wonder if they were forced in the same way ? My dumbass may also be using S1 wrong lol I am referring to the forced selfings
Was it Tom Hill that grew some Bubba kush s1’s, found a plant better than the clone and scrapped the clone ?