Supernatural by EG preservation project

[inhumantheory]

Also here is an old video of someone’s Supernatural they grew out. This was back when Supernatural was first release and thankfully this gave me an idea of what to expect with the plant structure. This dude got the Grapey Pheno I desire.

SuperNatural and Essence

[inhumantheory]

Okay, friends. I’m choosing the soak 1% peroxide and water then paper towel method as that has been a method that has always worked for me in the past. I’ve managed to pop 5 year old seeds before but never anything older than that. I will be doing the dilution and germination tonight after work. We got this! I’ve also got a seedling heat mat I can use and place a blanket to act as a buffer to keep things warm. But also don’t want to cook my seeds. I’ll just have to stick with my warm and dark closet.

[JAWS]

open pollination for-sure, take cuts of EVERYTHING males included.

awesome …

[inhumantheory]

Off to the races! Mother Nature have mercy on me, please! I figured out the 1% h202 dilution and had plenty of time before work to get this going. I have everything I need and the space I require to kickstart this preservation run. I’m keeping the original packaging as it will always be nostalgic to me and a reminder on how wonderful this community is.

Seeds placed in 1%h202 and water dilution at 9:40 AM.

And most definitely! @JAWS i will be taking multiple cuttings of each plant. My paranoia won’t allow me to not take any cuttings.

[Magu]

May the Buddha bless you.

[Dirt_Wizard]

What I have been doing with some good success rates (just got 7/8 2015 seeds to sprout) is a scuff of the shell, one minute dip in 3% H202 followed by two minutes swirl in plain tap water. I then plant into Root Riots pre soaked in a weak fulvic and kelp solution along with a little H202. First addition of water to the plugs is E-Z Root from Soil Moist which is an azos and bacillus inoculant with a little NPK from bone meal and kelp. This worked really well! I think temperature is the key component, getting the tray up to 75-80F for the first 48-72 hours really encouraged the seeds to crack, I keep the dome closed for the first week and the heat pad on, though a little lower like 70F. I spray the inside of the seedling tray and dome every day with either PureCrop1 or H202 solution to keep everything mold and pest free, not a single damp-off this time despite rainforest conditions in the dome trying to encourage these African hybrids to pop.

[Dirt_Wizard]

One thing I’ve found with older seeds- they usually have less vigor from using their internal energy stores up over the long storage, so they need some help escaping the shell and the pericarp both sometimes. The fulvic and kelp help a lot with this by providing ready-to use nutrients, same idea with worm castings. I wait three days and if I don’t see any action down in the plugs I carefully pull the seeds with tweezers and separate the shell halves or at least get them started. I find that the holes on RR are a little small for some seeds to fight up through, so I split and rip the hole open more before planting and then pile some little crumbs of plug on top of the seed that will be easy for it to push off.

[JustANobody]

@Dirt_Wizard

. I find that the holes on RR are a little small for some seeds to fight up through

Nice observation, I found the same thing so I stick a Philips head screw driver into the hole and wiggle it around, seems to work well.

[Dirt_Wizard]

@JustANobody

I found the same thing so I stick a Philips head screw driver into the hole and wiggle it around

Nice, good idea. I have a whole set of huge technician tweezers up to about 9” long that are probably my most valuable cannabis tool that would be hard to fudge with something else. It’s so handy to be able to grab a different size for things, and I’ve found that the big ones are perfect for both plucking plugs from trays down the edges, and I also sometimes just close them and insert the tip into the plug then let the spring rip it open, it seems like a repeatable action with a fixed force applied?

Mine are from the surplus overstock type store but they’re basically this and smaller versions, pretty sure most auto stores carry these

Stainless Steel, Flat, Tweezers

[JustANobody]

Nice. My son has something similar for feeding his lizard.

[Dirt_Wizard]

@inhumantheory

Okay, friends. I’m choosing the soak 1% peroxide and water then paper towel method as that has been a method that has always worked for me in the past. I’ve managed to pop 5 year old seeds before but never anything older than that.

Here’s a tip I haven’t tried yet but comes highly recommended, it’s just a particular way to do the paper towel and Ziploc tek that makes it easier for old seeds to drop a first root out by assisting it with gravity and the natural urge of a seed to orient itself downwards toward the magnetic core of the earth. From what I understand, when seeds are planted upside down and have to turn their shoot around, they are not necessarily just moving away from light, they’re also orienting themselves using gravity and the Earth’s magnetic field.

Jordan of the Islands

Definitely not your method holding them back. I usually use moist paper towels too (all white - no dyes), and I used to put them in plastic containers exactly like you do. But now I put the moist paper towels in a ziplock bag, and place that in a Priority Express Mail envelope (about 9x12), and I hang that up in a warm place. The envelope keeps the beans in the dark, and hanging it up ensures the taproot heads straight down, which makes them easier to transplant.

PSA - Starting Seeds

Like many, I still pop seeds with damp paper towels. However, on a few occasions I’ve noticed the little root hairs can migrate through the plys of the paper towel; making it a challenge to remove them without damaging the fragile little roots. I discovered these blue paper shop towels that are more woven and fabric-like. They are very durable and protective of the little babies. They are sold by Harbor Freight Tools for $2.97 but you can catch them on sale for less. Here’s a pic: [image]

Kashmir Crowdsource Testing

I’ve started doing vertical, folded in paper towel, in a Ziploc, above my light with a little worm castings tea. Sprouts are strong and straight and shed helmets with no problem. Let them get about an inch and then into coco or straight to hydro bucket. Don’t think I’ve had a germination failure since doing it like this. Being vertical they never seem to dig into paper towel they just slide through

BOG Grape Punch redemption run

Hey @MumenRyder , so when I germinated these I did so vertically by putting the paper towel flat into a ziplock and hanging it from the pole in the top of one of my tents. This promoted straighter tap roots as they automatically want to grow down. As for leaving them too long I would say you could check them once a day. The seedling has enough energy stored to keep growing well past shucking it’s shell so it will be hard to leave them too long really if checking daily. After that I just make a h…

Another good hack/tek for seed starting as well as a lot of other organic garden things is getting a thrift store yogurt maker or two for $5-10. A complete unit will come with a (usually) clear dome lid and individual cups for each slot, with lids and probably extras. Yogurt makers are specced to keep the inoculated milk at 108-112F (ideally) so it’s a little hot, but by either leaving the lid off and using spacers under the cups, or the addition of a resistor dial plugged between it and the wall you can dial that down to whatever nice warm temp you want. It’s a DIY germination machine! Hope MM is okay out there we haven’t seen him in a while here:

PSA - Starting Seeds

yes I always soak them first, and then in to the towels. Some seeds are more stubborn than others, also. The yogurt maker is like that cupcake pan but it’s slightly heated, which will help with the propagation as well. Here is the type of yogurt maker I was referring to: [s-l640] when you find them at thrift shops they are usually missing the lid, which is ok, you don’t really need it, though it might come in handy as a humidity dome if it still has one.

[RWL]

This brings back some memories lol.
I ran his flav cut and supernatural back in 2012.
Good times

[Dirt_Wizard]

“The earth is a giant magnet and its geomagnetic field (GMF) has a huge impact on the productivity of crops. Specifically, the electromagnetic radiations coming from the sun stimulate the growth and development of plants through the process of photosynthesis. The other possibility to increase plant growth could be an alteration in electrostatic balance of the plant system at the cell membrane level, as it is the primary of plant growth. The GMF can influence basic biological functions such as rhythmicity (Wever 1968), orientation (Brown 1962), and development (Asashima et al. 1991). The effects of the magnetic field (MF) on plants, fungi, and microbes can be elucidated by ion-cyclotron-resonance (ICR) and the radical-pair model. These two mechanisms also play an essential role in the magneto-reception of organisms.”

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[inhumantheory]

Thank you so much! @Dirt_Wizard for the knowledge and insight! I did scuff the seeds with a tiny nail file very gently and let them soak in h202 before putting them in the dilution. They are currently in a dark and warm closet. I can’t appreciate you all enough for being so kind and helpful. Especially with a breeding novice such as myself. We got this, friends! Let’s manifest it.

[Dirt_Wizard]

Hah my lady keeps geckos but they just eat brown smelly slop out of little yellow lids, this is Bartholemew:

[inhumantheory]

Some very good news today my friends! And boy what a surprise!

10 out of eleven supernatural seeds have popped a taproot overnight in my hydrogen peroxide and water solution!

I went ahead and placed them in their final homes except for three, which are in solocups for now—excluding the empty one for the 11th unpopped supernat seed.

I’m so happy and ecstatic right now, friends!

[Emeraldgreen]

Congratulations . I know you were worried about this. It’s coming together beautifully

[Weednerd.Anthony]

Awesome news buddy, this will be a great sight to see

Off to the races now!

[buckaroobonsai]

That’s great news! Wonderful!

[JustANobody]

That’s awesome!