Yeah, I’ve read that one at least 500 times haha, love it. His description of Colombian Red is very interesting, I think. But maybe that’s just because I’m getting ready to harvest that Soar haha…
This is a subject I go against the grain on lol I am not a believer in micro dosing having the same beneficial effect’s as actually tripping does. I do not believe it to be a medicine for daily use . Now I am not discounting micro dosing completely , I am just not convinced micro dosing is the miracle it is claimed to be. Micro dosing does however open the sales market to a much larger size though …
As for Blueberry , I grew it back around 99/00 and it was incredible smoke. A real pain to keep happy but def earned the rep it has.
I’m halfway in agreement with you. I think taking a macro dose of shrooms (any psychedelic really) is way different than microdosing, in terms of how it can actually change your life. I don’t think you can have the same profound shifts in consciousness and perception that you get from taking larger doses of psychedelics. I’d probably still be a drug addict and complete sleezeball if it weren’t for one really powerful LSD experience…
I do think there are positive benefits from microdosing, but they’re often overstated. I take a blend of psilocybin/medicinal mushrooms/hemp/CBD oil about 2 times a week. I don’t notice any effects usually that day, but the days afterwards are usually really good. I feel calmer and less irritable. Sometimes I get a creativity boost too. Sometimes I don’t notice any difference… but I do continue to do it.
As far as using shrooms as a breeding tool, I think you’d need to find a ‘sweet spot’ for the dosage. And that can be tricky with shrooms, because some can definitely be more potent than others. I think a light dose, that would just enhance you perceptions would be ideal… but I feel like if you undershoot the dosage you get stuck in this weird half-tripping headspace, maybe that’s just me. I’d like to experiment with it for sure… need to get back on my shroom game!
It turns out that the most recent research on microdosing shows that it does have a significant positive effect, but it’s very similar in effect size to (and most likely caused by) the placebo effect. This isn’t a bad thing, as the placebo effect is still a powerful tool in a medical toolkit.
I personally think there’s more benefit for people who suffer from anxiety and depression if they take mini doses rather than micro doses. Enough to feel it and have a “really good day” as I think Michael Pollan wrote, but not enough to have a full blown trip. That might be enough to connect with the plants when considering which ways to mix them for breeding. Combine mini does of mushrooms with larger doses of lion’s mane, and there’s the possibility of really changing your mind…about nearly anything!
Yeah, I don’t think true micro doses alone are enough to really help with those issues. But a good low dose of shrooms can… like .5g to 1.0g depending on how sensitive you are. I know some people (like nube) are super-sensitive to even non-psychedelic mushrooms. Do you get a lot of mental benefits from the Lion’s Mane?
With how easy they are to grow now-a-days (google unclebens tek), everyone should be given the opportunity to try if they want. Also check out the books, ‘How to Change your Mind’ and ‘Botany of Desire’ by Micheal Pollan, if you’re into that sort of stuff, that is…
The Lion’s Mane does have a noticeable effect on my long term memory. I find myself remembering stuff I thought I’d long forgotten, and able to recall useless bits of info from ages ago. Not so much on my short term memory loss, but that’s probably unrelated… Reishi hurts my stomach, but in small doses it’s definitely a powerful energy supplement. Turkey Tail is more about healthy immune system maintenance rather than direct effects. I’ve had success growing all of those, but it kinda takes up a lot of time and space so it’s not an ongoing thing.
Growing mushrooms is pretty easy if you just want a small amount of psychedelic mushrooms for personal, like the uncle ben’s tek (which is shroom shorthand for “technique”) you mentioned, but to really have success for the wood loving medicinal mushrooms or the edible ones, the kind of success where it’s worth your time and effort and money, you gotta be using a big pressure cooker (23qt) and a dedicated high humidity tent, and those cost a fair amount and take up a lot of space.
It’s also not super straightforward to find the recipes or instructions, either, because most people charge for access to the detailed step-by-step info, either in the form of a book or PDFs. It’s not that hard and there aren’t that many steps, but distilling the publicly available bits and pieces and bread crumbs of info from multiple threads/sites/posts/interviews into a solid process is the hard part. It’s much easier for the psychedelic mushroom growing teks.
Do you know of any good places to source these in already made pill or wholesale form? I’ve been interested in taking them due to family history of Alzheimer’s.
Yup, I’ve never personally done the uncle ben’s method, but it looks really easy. The success rate and productivity rate goes way up with the correct hardware. I’ve found the 23Q presto pressure cookers for cheap used, just make sure you check the seals and gaskets, or just replace them. I used a cheap greenhouse (Martha tent) to grow the edibles and fun kinds. It does take a lot of time and energy though.
The best resource I’ve found by far is shroomery.org . I was able to follow the teks there way back when I was young and actually grew shrooms before I even started smoking weed. The info is there, it just takes a bunch of energy and time to sort through the info and get comfortable with the teks, and if you want to get into the edibles, you’ve really got invest. cubes are easy as hell to grow… I’m sure a lot of you have seen the famous picture of them growing on a old bag of weed from RogerRabbit…
Nice Reishi! Big ol’ shelfs… I like the crazy antler looking ones!
I bought Paul Stamet’s “Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms” a while back, still haven’t read it (it’s thick). Are you familiar with that book, @nube? You know if it’s good? Supposed to be, like, the mushroom grower’s bible, recommended on a couple of different websites that I checked out.
Gawddamn it… I had two of those tents, each like half the size of the one in your pic, and threw them out about a year ago because I never used them anymore. I’m gonna be real irritated if I have to buy them again haha. I can already hear my girl now… “Didn’t you already have a couple of those?” Shit… Haha!
It’s pretty good, may be a little outdated now, unless there’s an updated version. But it will get you through the basics of what you need to start growing.
You don’t have to have the little mini greenhouse either… the easiest way is to do them in those little plastic shoeboxes with the lids, Sterilite 6 Quart boxes. That way you can just throw them in a closet or under the bed or whatever; it doesn’t take up a lot of room and they’re pretty discreet…
I just looked, it’s the third edition, I dunno how recent that makes it, though. I’ll sit down and read it here pretty soon.
Okay, cool, good to know. I looked at that pic and was like,”I… I had two of those… A year ago…” haha. Kicking myself for throwing them out, although I don’t know where I’d set them up now. Little plastic shoeboxes definitely sound easier.
Yeah man, the best is probably Paul Stamets’ company Fungi Perfecti at www.fungi.com or his Host Defense brand, but he doesn’t sell bulk amounts of a pound or more. For bulk, the best I’ve found is https://www.mushroomharvest.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=39&products_id=102 This company grows their own organic mushrooms, tests for heavy metals and more than just polysaccharide content, and makes the powder from the fruiting bodies, not the mycelium grown on rice or grown in a vat of chemicals. I think the powder from the mushrooms themselves is important, as that’s the source used in all the clinical trials ever done on the benefits of mushrooms. Hope that helps. Their turkey tail is awesome too. Very beneficial - maybe the single best medicinal mushroom you can take, and it grows everywhere wild in almost every forest in the world!
Yeah man you’re totally right and I definitely agree, you can do it on the cheap. But, like you said, damn it takes a lot of time, energy, SPACE and planning. Again, like you said, I’d say it’s basically as complex as starting from scratch growing really good organic weed. The big difference is you gotta be pretty sterile from start to finish. Once you get a good method down I’m sure it’s as easy as water only organics, but I haven’t been able to dedicate the space to it…yet. It also takes low temps for most of the medicinal mushrooms. It’s super fun to do it though! Shroomery.org is great but damn do they like to ramble. And they are brutal to nubes. That’s a place where if you don’t use the search engine, you get run outta town fast.
It’s a lot of stuff to buy and lots of planning, but it’s awesome! I highly recommend it if you have the time, space, and energy to develop another serious hobby from the ground up.
Yep, that’s the bible. As iamyou_youareme said, it’s good enough to get started. Growing psilocybin is really easy and small scale for personal needs. Like, basically anybody can do it with stuff they already have in their house, just gotta buy the spore syringe from www.sporeworks.com or similar (you can store them just like seeds in the crisper drawer of your fridge, too). There’s a whole thread on this site deadicated to growing them. The other medicinals and edible mushrooms are a lot more work to grow, and the scale of equipment and space and learning curve is much larger to get a payoff. That’s where you need a mini greenhouse.
Okay, I’ll check out sporeworks. I was looking at mushrooms.com, too, which is one of the sites that recommended Stamet’s book. But I won’t be ordering any spores for a whiiiiile, anyway. I feel like I have to do at least six month’s worth of reading before I begin any new endeavor haha.
Yeah, I read some of that thread (or A mushroom-growing thread here, anyway). It got a little too bitchy and too much back-and-forth at one point and I was like,”Alright, I’m done here,” haha and quit reading it. Bought that book instead. But maybe I’ll revisit that thread. The problem is, like, watching other people talk about what they’re doing, what’s going on etc, I’m like,”I have no fucking idea what these people are even talking about right now…” Gotta familiarize myself with the jargon and technical terms before I check it out again, I think.
That is wild. And it kinda makes me not wanna grow them, actually haha. I don’t want no thinkin’, decision-makin’ mushrooms growin’ in my house!!! Haha. What if they decide to kill me?!?
That is pretty cool, though. Don’t FUCK with nature. I dunno if you’ve ever seen it, but it actually reminds me of that part in “Enocunters at the End of the World,” by Warner Herzog, where that one biologist was talking about the single-celled organisms who “pick and choose” the grains of sand they use to “build” their shells or whatever, exhibiting signs of intelligent life. Basically haha.
I love that movie; it’s terrifying, but awesome nonetheless.