Actually, this is a sign of progress… LEDs are very close to their maximum efficiency for the newest released lights. In order to improve, they must change the technology. Much like when LEDs first came out their efficiency was less than half of HPS. Over the years they have increased to over 90% efficiency. At this point, it’s diminishing returns and there’s no point in investing time and money to improve minor percentages . The cost and doing so is extravagant for such a minor improvement. So instead of chasing that last percent, they will invest in new technology that has a far better return on investment. This has been a slow process And we’re all waiting to see what the next technology will be. There is definitely a few people claiming to have the next best thing time will tell … You’re absolutely killing it @Terpsnpurp !!! My only advice is be very careful going over 60 percent on light power. Most of the time it causes issues and keep in mind accumulative light per day Is most likely the issue. I only turn up my lights up 3 to 4 clicks during an entire flower run. And only 2 clicks in veg. Basically puts me at max 60 to 70% power. If I increase above that my chances for nanners increase. I believe this is due to accumulative daily light. I would be surprised if you need to go over 70%. Cheers !!!
So if i ran co2… would it fix that? I have co2 but its not a closed loop setup so not practical… unused for now
I do believe the CO2 will help you increase overall yield. But I don’t think it will fix your overall daily light if it’s high. I add heavy CO2 And still rarely hit 70%. I think at that point it requires absolute perfect feeding and CO2 along with a perfect environment to stay on track when you get above 70% on the light. It’s like driving A supercar any little wrong move will wreck the car at that speed. I’m not saying you can’t do it, but very few of us bother. Risk versus reward at that point just seems to be a minimal return for a high risk. @Terpsnpurps I do believe you are right around maximum output without high risk at about 70% … Cheers !!!
Right on thanks man… that does explain it nicely… i wont mess w that lol … if i ever do… it’ll be years away.
My last grow i went 70 % and no issue at all… so i am now back down to 70% power…
What is the 1st thing everyone looks for with too much light? Leaf angle is obvious 1 but anything else besides that?
I think it’s just a real fine line between the perfect amount and too much. I do think it takes a few days of above it’s ideal light per day to have any sort of effect negatively. I would keep my eye out for naners and in general, just some slowing down of growth. Again, I think it’s minimal negative effects that will be obvious but I just think it puts you in high risk for Hermes or naners and for feed deficiencies. I think you will only gain minimally, even if you did it well. You never run a race car at 100%. I think this is the same. And if you ever do, it’s just for small amounts of time. I think there would be some benefit to running a higher percentage for an hour or two per day, but that would just be a lot of work on your part.
Thanks man … that all makes a ton of sense for sure… and should help keep me in line a little with impatience and trying too much at 1 time
Ill be harvesting as soon as possible… we tried the smoke yesterday and today with that new cure method… it actually isnt bad but i think it can be tweaked in a better way… it was pretty damn good uncured …
I don’t wanna downplay CO2 though… I would increase my CO2 before I turned up a light. Light efficiency is directly related to CO2 availability. In my opinion, you could get more results from increasing CO2 first over increasing light power. Plus, CO2 is cheaper in a sealed environment, than power. I do believe most people would benefit from CO2 over increased light output… Just my opinion From all the information I’ve read over the years.
Love that old school micro flow meter on the red/silver tank… 
That old tank looks like it’s seen a lot of use … 
Cheers
G
Yeah thats how i bought that 1… hydro fuckers saw me coming as a newbie from miles away
I agree with that 1… focus really should be co2 over intensity hands down…
Lol yeah i like that meter… its nice i can easily adjust flow with it well
I’ve used them for decades… They work well.
There’s lots of newer designs but unless you need remote monitoring, old school is the way to go… and no batteries!!
Cheers
G
I’m still reading through, but I’d bet the farm it wasn’t light intensity that caused it.
Nope. You’re good.
The flowers will get burned/bleached and look white up top. Leaves tacoing up hard.
I still have remote monitoring on that co2… and power over it remotely as well
They did deffo taco up very sharply
We warched the new one on Netflix last night. The Red One. With the Rock. It was just goofy fare, much like everything the Rock is in. And this one was just average, in my opinion.