The autoflower abc outdoor project @51°N

I originally wanted to start creating a freakshow autoflower outdoor variety but then i was gifted a Monster Hunter male (abc x Gorilla Glue). So I pollinated a couple of siberian ruderalis from khalifa, which i choose for their hardy seeds, cold tolerance and cbd content. And the fact that they have some purple going on. I like colours.



I ended up with 2 f1 females and 1 male i liked. The male was slightly faster growing than all the others…

The stem smelled of hubba bubba chewing gum when rubbed and the whole plant had a strong “old books” vanillin smell. I love the smell of old books in the evening.

All preflowers where pollinated with the male, for the rest i used the same abc pollen to get more abc expression in the bx f2 and not have to select one more generation indoor before putting them outdoors. The clock is ticking, summer is coming.

The resulting flowers where a bit higher in thc content then the ruderalis. But still very low. Which i like since i am old and cant smoke that psychosis inducing 20%+ shit anymore. The best thing: this stuff turned out to be a beautiful adhd medication. One joint in the evening switched off my constantly spinning head without getting me high. The second joint made me high, but not a bit uncomfortable and joint 3 and 4 made me go to sleep. This is how i like my medication. Unfortunately it did not have a good muscle relaxing effect. And the quality… lets say it was the sweetest and best smelling hay i ever tasted.

Getting the seeds to germinate was a moderate nightmare. I had to grind them down and on top i had to file the tips. Which may have been the most important.
And i had to dry cycle them 3-4 times before they did anything. I guess i have a combination of both ruderalis and abc germination troubles. Not a bad thing i think.



I ended up with 31 abc plants. Most of them bx f2. And one verified f2 male (the only verified f2 plant that expressed the abc morphology).

This patch will be their home for the next years. I want them to just drop the seeds so next year they will grow as soon as spring comes. All the seeds that dont drop on their own before harvest will be backup.

June 2.

June 17.

June 29.

In the beginning i was afraid the whole project might not go anywhere because they were growing sooo slow. But once outdoors they really picked up speed. I guess they just didn´t like the led lighting. Seen that before with land races.
But they did like those plant hats.


I really like the red stem phenos. Would be nice to have them all do that in the future. But unfortunately they seem to not grow as vigorous.

And i took some cuttings from the biggest 3 females (already in preflower) and the one f2 male. I will just add them to the patch to increase the amount of seeds from the ones i like best.

The best looking non-abc are pollinated and i will select abcs from them too and add them to the patch next year to broaden the gene-pool.

From now on selection will be done by removing all plants i dont like. I hope the seeds will survive winter and germinate at the right time. Seems like a big gamble, but i think it is necessary to achieve what i want.

Wish me luck. :laughing:

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VERY COOL !
:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: :+1:

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Great project, wish you a great outcome :slightly_smiling_face:

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good to see you on Overgrow @zwinst ! :hugs:

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Looks awesome! I like the legos

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@zwinst good luck on your project. We are all rooting for you. :pray:

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what they said! thus project and your presentation is a Delight. Psyched to watch more​:green_heart::v:t3::metal:t3:

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Thanks for the welcoming reception!

I should have posted my first entry sober though - i forgot a couple of details and i got the proper name of the whole thing wrong: It should have been

The autoflower abc outdoor project @51°N

:see_no_evil:

Maybe one of those legendary mods can fix it? I don´t see a edit button anywhere.

I also neglected to mention the obvious fact, that since i back crossed, this first outdoor generation will not be as autoflower as i like. In fact it looks like none are. I can already spot it - those preflowers are not auto. They are more likely stress or genetics. And there is no stretch associated with it.
The siberian ruderalis autoflower genes are dominant however, so next generation will be the one where i have to really select. Obviously for abc again and hope that the right genes end up on the right alleles. I have a sneaking suspicion that i will have some problems in that area - all the autoflowers i have observed in the bx f2 so far were non-abc, all the abc seem to be female so far and the only f2 abc autoflower is male. So i really have to make shure this f2 abc autoflower pollen gets distributed sufficiently. At least this one male exhibits most of the traits i want - autoflower, good growth and it revegged after being in bloom from node 5 on (see picture June 29 in the right lower corner). It has caught up in size, rivaling the largest ladys and is waiting for them to be ready. :kissing_heart:
The only thing missing are the purple male flowers i observed in the ruderalis. They looked awesome.

What else?

They don´t seem to need water at all. Which is very nice. But some of the cuttings shoots started to get moldy and rot because of high humidity in their tray. Not exactly a good sign. But they will survive. I gave them more ventilation and now they are doing better than my kritikal bilbo cuttings at home. They even dropped the leaves i forgot to cut off. Very considerate of them. Usually cuttings just die instead - i have never in my life seen a cutting without roots drop a single leaf before. :exploding_head:

Slugs don´t bother even trying to eat them at this stage. Which is amazing. Those bastards killed all my tomatoes, all my runner beans, two thirds of my bush beans, more than half of my artichokes and all the seedlings (probably around 50…) i wanted to add to the patch later. I have to get creative next year to prevent them from eating all the offspring when it is still young and delicious. :expressionless:
I also have to somehow prevent the mice from eating the seeds during winter. Maybe i´ll add a thin layer of horse manure to cover them and water with onion, elder and nettle broth. If that doesn´t work i have to go Elmer Fudd on them. :gun:

What i dont like about this first outdoor generation is the branches hanging so low to the ground. I guess i will have to scrape some buds off the dirt at the end… or i just won´t. :laughing:

edit:
Aahh, there is an edit button. :smile:

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Update!

Here is part of a pic dump from the 23rd of August, i discovered just this moment while trying to pic some pics for an update right now :laughing:










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23rd of August me did an outstanding job selecting pictures! :smile:
Here is what today me has to contribute:

It has been a very wet year indeed.


Those bastards have been seeking shelter in my plants! Usually they just lurk underneath near the stem to enjoy the shade, but when it is raining they climb up to not drown!

23rd of August again

You can see the one male on the right. I am proud like a father of this one. I had no idea male hemp plants are soo vigorous and long lasting. This bastard has been in flower his whole life and just doesn´t stop spreading the love…

10th of August

Collecting that way didn´t work.

A friend told me to do it this way.

It worked!

The bees went crazy :heart_eyes:




To make shure all the ladys get his love, i cut off a couple of branches every other day and helped my guy out. :grinning:

At some point i had to cull him though. Beeing a good neighbor and such… Letting him live any longer would have been even more irresponsible.
Now he is in good company.

Like all the other guys… But this is what it means to be a man. You contribute. All the way.
Speaking of others: 4 males did show their faces at the end, but i was not impressed and adding them to the mix would not have been benefitial. Still a very weird distribution: 4 males out of 30 bx f2 plants (not counting the f2 male). There is something strange going on with the abc mutation.

Lets look at some random non-abc f2 siblings:


Distribution was nearly perfect: 9 males and 9 females.

I have my eyes on the large lady on the right though!



She got some love and i will tend to her offspring this winter. I really adore this red-stem thing!

But now we get to the real stuff:

Did i say it was raining this year? It was very rainy and sometims the rain was heavy…



Trees broke down and so. And the bastards got bent. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

But thanks to my efforts they recovered and all i have to do now is wait.

Whoever said abc isn´t yielding enough? In your face! Fucking ruderalis abc…

More pictures tomorrow!

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Hey bud. Very cool project you got going on. Thank you for sharing all those awesome pictures. I’ve been collecting beans to go down a similar path. I’m just getting started but this run I’ve used the abc line drunken bastard to cross into the freezeland. Beans are still cooking though🤞 I’ll be mixing the abc with different heirloom northern outdoor lines along with feral wild auto types. My end goal just being an abc type that can handle the cold wet north while maintaining feral reproduction abilities. I’m pretty stoked to know I’m not alone in this vision. Keep up the amazing work bro. Look forward to seeing more of your progress.

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HOWS THE SMOKE.MILD? I LIKE THE WAY YOU GROW THEM BUSHY…IF IT GROWS TALL IT GROWS LIKE A VINE AND NEEDS A LOT OF SUPPORTS BECAUSE THE LIMBS ARE STRINGY AND WEAK. i HAD BREAKS WHEN THE LIMBS GOT HEAVY WITH THE BUDS. HOPEFULLY MY COLORS WILL POP CLOSER TO OCTOBER.

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MALES ATTRACTED A TON OF BEES AND LADY BUGS :nerd_face:

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I’M GOING TO DO THIS NEXT SPRING…ABC GARDEN WITH A COUPLE OF AUTO CROPS THAT CAN BE FLOWERING AT THE SAME TIME AS THE ABC MALES…HUGH POLLEN PRODUCTION. I BET MOST OF MY REGULAR PLANTS WERE POLLINATED WITH MUTANT POLLEN. :sunglasses:

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Very interesting indeed

But i hope that you are miles and miles away from my crop xD

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