The Central American landrace and heirloom thread (Part 3)

I concur 2 weeks should be best in theory of course this is a thing i will definitely be experimenting :slight_smile:

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So the only Sativa i have running atm. Jalisco 18 days into flower from @pigeonman repro

anyone else seen a :lady_beetle: do this?

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Hey Friends! What a great thread, thanks to everyone for sharing.

I had been holding a pack of Chimera’s 1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry sativa F’2s for some time and got around to running 'em.

Ran Chimeras Mental Floss and Schnazzleberry multiple times as well as DJ’s F13 in the past and I really love the BB plant. The BB Sativa has been on my radar for a long time. Huge fan of the DJ forum on ICMAG in the old days.

OK back to the 1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry sativa… there was very little variation between the phenos. I took the biggest healthiest Guerrero leaner as well as the most BB leaner and pollinated them with three males. I have never purposely made seeds before and this was a trip. One tent I flowered with both the male and female plants from seed and my second tent was filled with all female cuttings that were pollinated with pollen collected from the other tent. I have a shit load of F3’s. I kept the cuttings of the plants I used.

Beautiful long sativa colas that turned blue/purple and developed that sweet fruity BB funk. These went really long at least 90 days. The seed plants could have gone more towards 120 days.

Even seeded this was pretty strong smoke. Buckling down for another run with the original clones and this time I will run them sinsemilla style. It seems like the high and overall production will be improved without seeds.

Lots of F3’s are sprouting in my compost bin and have been transplanted to explore. So far so good.

Unfortunately I didn’t take any good photos of the plants near the end of flower. It’s going to be a couple weeks but I will post some photos of her after the stretch.

I really dig this forum and community and hope to check in and mingle here and there. So cool to see how far we’ve come with this special plant. Lots of amazing humans sharing experience, information, seeds, cutting, pollen etc… looking forward to participating :wink:

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Cheers :sunglasses:

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Hey, GA. It’s nice to hear about the Highland Guerrero x Blueberry Sativa. Those come from an excellent source. Can you say more about the smoke? Have the terpenes changed much since harvest?How long does the high last and what effects are you getting?

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In your Huixtepec grow watch for the honeysuckle pheno. The taste I found was amazing better than anything I ever smoked. Another big plus to this strain is the painrelieving qualities. Huixtepec is also very amenable to re-veg I have discovered.

Going back to a previous grow did you find a cinnamon pheno taste in your Corinto?

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No…n fortunately I didn’t…The plants had some shit weather on the final leg…But the three fems had traces of diesel…but mostly Limon citronella type.

The Smoke is heavy…couch lock …and need a wee munch etc…Go shopping and you forget what you’re shopping for. lOL

I will do them again…ye there is different phenos in that strain. and I did enjoy the grow.

P J

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Thanks 4 info

There coming on ok.

P J

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“Go shopping and you forget what you are shopping for” …

:joy::joy::joy: sounds like me after a fat joint of some fine colombian import, blasted and red eyed, in any super market stumbling into my aunt after wondering through every lane of the place putting into the cart all sorts of sugar and fat rich shit food I can find. I usually am really healthy, but the munchies drag me down and over to the darkside.

Ohhh those are the random highs follow by munchies and stone of the classic colombian in my parts of the world. Nice description of the Corintio.

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Phew…im so glad I’m not the only one…oh ye deffo Colombian through and through…es Corinto.

Oh ye shopping…I buy some shit as well…LOL

I also forgot to pay my electric bill…and that’s what I went into town to do. LOL

Saludas

P J

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Because I got high, because I got high, because I got high!

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I used to see him play in Hattiesburg MS at a little hole in the wall bar before he got his record deal it was cool

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Oaxacan Gold from Green Mountain is vegging along nicely.

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I’m very excited for this one. Keep us updated!

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My Jalisco that’s at 3wks today. So she stretched about an inch and has started to produce flowers already. Hoping she decides to stretch a little. I probably just cursed myself by saying now shell strech above my lights lol. 8’ ceilings are nice but my light isn’t bolted to the ceiling.lol

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I pinched her top 10 days before flip thinking will give enough time to stretch and grow nope.lol I take a full plant pic tonight I can’t find the phone I use for pics lol.

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Nice one @TexasTea, will keep an eye on your grow, have been enjoying Mountain Gold and Purple Satellite from the same breeder. Hope to try these next season. This one should finish for you outdoors @Upstate

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I have two unsexed Mountain Golds vegging as well. That’s such a nice hybrid, really delicious and kind smoke. I’m looking forward to the Oaxacan Gold fem though and will definitely take some cuts and make some seeds.

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You know the origins of the other Oax '79 he used in that release? I’ve asked Vman, but he hasn’t got around to full disclosure on that one yet, did mention its another line to his.

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That I do not know. I thought he said it was the same line and that he had shared seeds with someone many years ago, but maybe I misinterpreted.

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*******COPY PASTE WARNING!!!

Green Mountain Seeds Description

This Highland Mexican line is absolutely unique to Green Mountain Seeds. This Oaxacan Gold is the corner stone and backbone to most of Vermontman’s breeding work.

Vermontman’s strain of Oaxacan Gold came in on a shipment through Marthas Vineyard one Kilo made it into the hands of a good dealer friend of mine in 1979.

This new Mexican Sinsemilla ran a hefty unheard of price of $200.00 an ounce. The bag of buds were amazing spears of barely seeded golden goodness, I was out of stash and I could not pass these up. Score!

Upon smoking my first joint I knew this was something amazingly special as it hit me right between the eyes and took me to another totally high, powerfully trippy place that led to incessant breathtaking laughter that went on for hours. We nick named her Skull F***.

I immediately called back my buddy, lets call him Dennis, and asked if he could pick out every seed he could find. He halfheartedly agreed, after all he was a stoner. This was in late winter, with spring right around the corner. These first Oaxaca Gold seeds were started under Florescent lights then moved out to make shift plastic tents to be hardened off. At this point in time the only cannabis available to me that would finish outdoors (20 miles north of Boston) was some no name Indica that was fairly early and not overly potent nor consistent, but made round leafy buds with some purple and would finish at about head height.

So last frost date finally arrived, I went fast to work amending my favorite spot between north and southbound lanes of I 95. With access off a clover leaf and through a culvert that ran a clear clean brook right under the north bound lane of the highway. Great under cover access and a steady supply of fresh water, though to make this passage I had to wade through shin deep, and sometimes cold water. I had to take off my shoes, just role up my pants and just get my feet wet. I switched to trash sneakers after banging my toes on rocks in frigid brook.
So in the middle of a giant patch of Chinese Knot weed, tucked atop a hill open to all day sunlight smack dab center of the interstate I tilled and spread 100 lb sacks of Manure compost and oat straw I hauled slung over my shoulder. In fact it laid me up with back pain for days.

My regular staple Indica got premier spot right up in the front of the newly tilled and amended patch. My new Mexican plants all female about eight Oaxacan which were already a bit taller, looking totally different in structure lined the back two rows of the garden staggered in a diamond pattern. With the light gold color of the oat straw mulch conserving moisture and reflecting up the precious early June sunshine to the newly planted Mexican ladies. Back at home the Oaxacan males took up residence in pots.

Owing most of what I knew about growing cannabis at this time to High Times Magazine on learning sexing and so on I powered on.

Summer went on and these thin leaved Oaxacan beauties towered bigger and bigger. With ample supply of water from the brook and heat from the steamy sunny summer days, and relative privacy from the north and south bound lanes of traffic. Tucked in through all the summers months.

As conditions started changing, with late summer light still beaming strong a baby food jar carrying half opened male flowers of the multiple potted boys from back home were brought in and methodically broken open one by one releasing pollen very carefully onto one each of the earlier tagged single long buds one each of the precious new ladies.

The days grew shorter, the air grew a little more brisk fall started setting in.The swollen calyx’s steadily growing along with the density of the giant spears. By the end of Sept, the Indica ladies in the front of the garden were ready to come down.

But the slender leaved totally bushy now monster Oaxacan were thick with pistils in tight clusters that ran up the whole stem, at around 8 to 9 feet tall. Oct 7th came around, to an untrained eye the buds looked like they could be picked. But thank you again to High Times, I said not yet!

Heavy rains from a major tropical systems marching north slammed the patch with winds and heavy rain. The plants tied up with twine to the best of my ability to near by trees and tree branches cut and pushed into the earth like stakes, held them steady through their soaking. Though the massive arms of buds were left arching over under their own weight, and some of the main branches split and had to be mended with layers of twine wrapped around the main trunks to hold and mend themselves back together.

The soaking of the rains left them dripping and drooping, But no mold!

Then out came the sun again and the last of the promise of Fall warmth.

Over the next two weeks is where the magic really happened, the buds swelled like nothing I had ever seen before. Light to medium frosts hit, they seemed not at all negatively affected.

Now the third week in October the landscape all around turned autumn gold and red and the Chinese Knot weed now dropping the last of their yellowing leaves and the greener than green towering Oaxacans were losing their last bit of cover, time to act.

So under the cover of nights darkness and dimmed out glare of rush hour traffics lights end, I coined the phrase, Mid nite farmer. Bag after bag cut and stuffed, and that all to important one separate bag that held the one pollinated heavily seeded branch of each spectacular Oaxacan lady who saw her last moon lit night. While the air filled with the sweet knock out fragrance of fresh Balsam fir forest, fruit and of course victory, a successful harvest.

This is how this unique Oaxacan Gold line started with me on my life journey.

Mold Resistance: Very high {mind your nutes}
Fragrance: Definitely a low odor strain, but sticking your face into a sack full Oaxacan Gold makes you upon first whiff want to just climb into the bag and breath. Slight Balsam fir, hash, incense, slight fruit.

Potency: Powerful! Very high. Hits fast! First right between the eyes but in the most pleasurable way. Very motivational but you might forget what you were doing.
terrific for Socializing, but you might forget what you are saying which can lead to gut busting group Laughter.
Cerebral, reflective, great for hikes or gardening or just being in nature, my artist friend says it lends him well to falling into his painting.

Taste: Fast cure buds:
Very smooth lung expansive, have a bit of a pine, floral, very slight fruit very easy on your throat. I liken it to a really fine dry wine, very subtle not like the loudness of most of today’s strains in taste but certainly keeps up in potency while remaining impeccably and definitively unique.
Taste: long cure
Like a fine wine, not to sweet, but also not void of sweetness…
Hits the Palate with creamy goodness, extremely reminiscent of classic old school Thai stick, loose Thai or Gold Buddha stick.

Culture: needs a longer veg time to carry massive weighty buds. Sensitive to heavy feeds of organic or synthetic Through selective breeding time has been shortened to end of Sept to first week Oct outdoors.

In shorter more northern or in mountainous regions finishes wonderfully in same time frame but exemplary results are realized when brought in and finished under red heavy LED or HID lights, best under LED.

After many years of culture an anomaly occurred, purple pigments started to show on the advent of switching to LED grow lights.

These traits were selected by using males with red stems and females with purple calyx to bring out a totally purple line with a slightly more blue green foliage and very wonderful purple calyx and buds upon finish. This expression became especially more pronounced when being grown under red heavy Led grow lights and is not temperature dependent with that development a slight more berry to the fragrance became endemic to the Oaxacan Gold Purple line. This Oaxacan gold strain now runs in two parallel lines one green one purple just only slightly different from each other but both as wonderfully consistent as clones but certainly each with their own merits.

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