Interesting variety for sure, everything looks healthy and happy! It looks like your crazy plant resembles more the JF side? At least as far as the leaf shape and size, nevertheless, looks like a crazy bush!
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I would agree. It has the cyme inflorescences, which I believe are dominant. Those are one difference, but the lead structure is more similar, just with shorter, smaller branches. Could be “self pruning”.
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These are all micros I believe. These are a good size for container growing. Might do well as a fruit bearing ornamental on your porch in warmer months.
I tried to get some good shots of the two different inflorescences.
For early fruit color, there are two different kinds from each line. The JF produces extremely uniformly colored fruit. The unripe color is a solid light green. The FF is a cool bicolor exterior, where the top half is a dark green while the bottom is light.
I’ve seen both characteristics on both kinds of inflorescences I believe. It’ll be interesting to see if it also occurs on the fruit sizes as well, or if the inflorescence type has a bearing on the fruit shape.
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Lots of action this week. You can see these things flower fast and get their asses to making pistils early.
One of the males is tall and got up into the lights, so I probably won’t use it. One male… and I swear I can see it early, looks like it’s going to push pistils. It has *that look *. Anybody know what I’m talking about? The stamen that push their way out of the pods. The last male is probably going to be what I use.
Females have two different leaf shapes. One is developmentally behind the others so I might can it. As per usual, prolific roots. Strains from this region grow em big. The limited root space might cause problems later but I’m not deterred. We’re all in on this.
@8k_feet has an additional 8 females, so our dwarf pickings is pretty good.
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May I please ask you to describe the setup you have going in in this pic? Where did you get the black cylinders containing the roots?
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These are pots made for starting trees 
They’re called deepots. They’re 2” diameter by 7” length. They make a rack that holds them as well as a deep flow tray.
I fitted it with some flood and drain fittings and sit it on top of a regular Home Depot black tub for a reservoir. Then I just run flood and drain cycles on a timer. It’s a pretty simple system. Works great with rockwool croutons.
I also made a white plastic mask to keep algae from growing in the tub. Seems to work really well.
We run another one for hydroponic greens (collards, chard, bok choy). When things are in full swing, we get up to 2x harvests of 6-8oz greens per week. Greens are really good to have fresh as a lot of their nutrition oxidizes in less than a day after picking.
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Micros are really cute. I like the little compact raceme inflorescences on these, although I’m not sure it’s practical. Some of these look like they would get a lot bigger in bigger pots, and are probably a little bigger than I would like for a micro. Fun stuff.
One of the tomatoes is growing fruit with more ribbing than I’m used to seeing from these lines. Something popped out of the fat frog there. Curious to find out how those come out.
In the big tent, maybe you’re starting to see why I want to grow dwarfs… even small tomatoes are big! The jaune flamme structures are endlessly bifurcating. It’s a nightmare 
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The last two pictures show a pretty good contrast of the two fruiting colors. The one is bicolor from the fat frog, which seems to be dominant. The other is a really consistent solid color which should ripen to a clementine orange in both size and color. The bicolor is cool but the solid colored jaune flamme is, to me, spectacular. Flesh is identically cooled throughout.
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It’d be pretty sweet to have a container size tomato that produced enough to keep from buying them. The flavor would have to be better. How long do they produce? I had it that one type set fruit and quit. While the other keeps going. Romas a friend grew this year were still producing in October till the cold stopped them.
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I haven’t grown the micros outside yet. Dwarf indeterminant tomatoes will produce as long into the season as regular size tomatoes and I’ve found will usually produce earlier.
Indoors, I’ve grown about 6-8 different varieties of micro tomatoes. Only the fat frog I consider worthwhile. That said, the fruits are delicious and the yields are excellent for the size. If you grow 2 of them, I think you can get a pretty good number of tomatoes when they’re in full production.
I’m hoping the selection from my crosses to the fat frog yield as well. I’m pretty picky about micros. Most of the time it’s better to grow a dwarf indeterminant if you can. But I’ve found one worthy micro in the fat frog, and hopefully can extend it to another with these.
As for dwarf indet. vs regular indet., I have no problems dumping ALL of the regulars in my outdoor and indoor gardens, once I find/make enough varieties to keep me happy. Their production is quite good.
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LOL well nothing is unhappy yet. The shortest gal is showing the leaf curling that I always have trouble fixing in these lines. Probably I ramped the phos a hair too late I’m.
I found out why that one male looked weird. It’s sterile! Not a good way to pass your genes bro. Whatever, I’ve got other options.
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I kind of borked the females. I changed the reservoir on Sunday and forgot to plug the pump in 
they took a pretty hard dry spell, but I think they’ll survive. Some of the fan leaves will not. The show is gonna be a bit uglier for it.
Anyway, here’s the male. I also took some pollen from another male, but a bit more from this one because I like it better. Nice purple stripe pollen sacs, reasonable small size.
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Lefthand seeds employee #2 reporting in at 14 days flower. Lefty gave me a bunch of females he orphaned from this grow, so it motivated me enough to clean my tent.
Plants are so fast, already chucking impressive resin at 2 weeks!! Some of the chemotypes in here are straight drugs, some this weird mix. This variety is crazy.
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A couple more shots of the predominant male. I’m getting plenty of pollen off this guy. Grown out further, I think it would go full black. There’s definitely anthocyanins becoming apparent.
Super happy to have @8k_feet working selections with me. It’s fun growing these out with how fast they run.
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The beauty contest is canceled for this grow. Forgetting to plug in my pump nearly killed them so we’re just in survival mode now.
My tomatoes are getting huge and producing a lot of fruit. I think I’ll have some ripe ones in ~2 weeks. Not having fresh tomatoes every day sucks. I’m really itching for these to ripen.
I’ve chopped the last male and collected pollen for the last day. Good production from the little chap. Happy to see no pistils and black leaves coming in. If anybody is in need of some weed spooge, I might be able to get one or two packs in the mail this week.
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Thanks for that info, I have some tomatoes growing indoors as well and was curious how to pollinate. Looks amazing
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I’ve grown many tomatoes outdoors, and only once grew and harvested a plant indoors, but that right there is on another level. Got me interested in trying to breed my own. Some beautiful fruits too, packing on that weight 
The SyrianLebs look much better than I thought they would. Are they pollinated? The back left one looks like it but not sure if it was from when they dried out.
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Those tomatoes sure bulked up in 8 days.
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They sure have. The growth spurts on tomatoes is pretty wild. The vines just go ballistic and if they’re not dwarfs, can get really difficult to manage after a while.
I think I’ve just started to detect a hint of color in some of the earliest fruits, so about 2 weeks from now is when I’d guess I’ll start harvesting.
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Yep! I’ve got pollen down on the lower buds of all the plants. The most dwarfed of the plants is in the back left, and I’d like to take seeds of that one of the plants turns out well. There are a few others, but that one has really short internodes. They’re practically on top of each other.
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