The Organic Landrace Theory (aka The Organic Nature Theory)

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I’ve been mixing up my soil the last couple days — Soil King base, hit with Mycos WP, Happy Frog Mycos fertilizer — stirring it all up like a witch’s brew. Then it hit me: this is bigger than just soil prep. It’s a whole theory, a whole way of thinking about breeding and growing.

I call it the Organic Landrace Nature Theory.

The Idea

When I defoliate, I don’t throw leaves away. I stir them back into the soil. Some are wet, some dry, some I leave on the surface until they break down. I noticed something though: in some pots where I buried leaves, they weren’t getting broken down the way I expected. That’s when it clicked — I’m feeding every other organism in my soil except the worms.

That’s why I just doubled down and ordered more 20-gallon garbage cans to make worm bins. Worms are essential. They’re the missing link in a living soil ecosystem. At the warehouse, I’ve already got a few bins alive with worms — open the lid and they’re climbing the corners, chewing down everything I feed it: leaves, vegetables, scraps. That’s culture right there, an ecosystem in motion.

Breeding for Nature

This isn’t just about soil health, it’s about breeding cannabis to thrive in conditions closer to nature. Think landrace evolution, but modernized. When a plant in nature falls, its leaves and seeds rot back into the earth, and the next generation pops in that living muck — worm castings, decomposed leaves, life stacked on life. That’s what I’m trying to simulate with my medium and my genetics.

I want my weed to live and thrive like a landrace, even though it’s bred and hunted in modern production. When I breed in this kind of ecosystem, I’m training my genetics to lock into survival traits — thriving in an organic cycle instead of chemical crutches.

Proof in the Process

One time I made hash out of seeded weed. After the wash, the leftover muck water actually started sprouting seeds on its own. That’s how alive this plant is when you let it be. And I was even told by someone across the world: bury an orange at the bottom of a pot, drop a seed on top, and it’ll eat the orange as its first food source. That’s nature’s design right there.

The Bigger Picture

This theory is about creating regenerative cannabis ecosystems — ecosystems that breed resilience, potency, and flavor. If we all grew like this, the culture of cannabis would shift. It’s about re-creating the conditions that made landraces strong, but applying it in a modern, controlled way.

To me, that’s the future. Breeding cannabis for survival, thriving, and thriving again. The Organic Landrace Nature Theory.

At the end of the day, this is cannabis growing cannabis. Plants feeding plants, leaves fueling seeds, genetics writing their own future. That’s the cycle we believe in as people who overgrow — the most powerful circle in existence.

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Yes but please allow me to add to ; a shit ton of seeds will pop but only the strong survive and the dead and dieing also feed the soil with vital growth hormones and regulators/stimulants to ensure that the coming generation has what it needs :wink: death /creation same thing :wink: “Death is only the beginning” Rasputin

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I tend to look at it all like both an ecosystem and a conveyor belt working together. An ecosystem because every part has its role — worms, microbes, leaves breaking down, castings feeding the roots — and a conveyor belt because it’s always moving forward in cycles, nothing wasted.

I’ve only really been putting this into motion for maybe a year now, with the worms and all, so I’m still learning as I go. But the way I see it, this isn’t just about growing plants — it’s about building a living cycle from scratch, where the plants, soil, and life forms all grow together and regenerate each other.

From the worm bin, you can literally grab handfuls of that living culture and put it straight into your soil mix. You can take used soil, mix it with that culture, add something like Happy Frog Mycos fertilizer — and suddenly it’s not just “as good as new,” it’s better than new. Because now it’s not sterile, it’s alive. It has culture. And I mean that in both ways: a living biological culture, and a cannabis culture that’s feeding itself forward.

Every defoliated leaf I throw back in, every worm bin I start, it’s all part of building that cycle where cannabis can thrive like it would in nature. For me it’s not just about the harvest at the end — it’s about living inside that process and understanding how creation and breakdown are really the same thing.

This is just the beginning of what I’m working on, and I think this is a good thread for picking up insights from others who see it the same way or have been doing it longer. Always open to learn and build the culture stronger.

And the beauty of it is you can keep adding different kinds of organisms into the culture — every beneficial life form plays its own role. Worms, microbes, white worms, springtails, even certain fungi and bacteria — all of them add layers of resilience and diversity. The more life you fold into the mix, the stronger the culture becomes, because it’s not just soil anymore, it’s a full ecosystem built to sustain cannabis in the most natural way possible.

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Update – The Main Culture Bin (3-Bucket Worm System)

So here’s the heart of the whole Organic Landrace Nature Theory — my main culture bin, which is just a 3-bucket 20-gallon worm setup. This thing is the engine room for everything I do.
• Bottom bucket (no holes): That’s the juice catcher. All the liquid drains here and turns into worm tea. You can leave it sealed or drill a drain hole/spigot to tap it whenever. I recommend the drain hole because you’ll be surprised how much liquid gold collects down there. That tea is straight culture in a bottle.
• Middle bucket (lots of holes): This is the breakdown chamber. Worms travel through the holes, munching on material as it falls through, and all the excess liquid keeps dripping down into the bottom. This layer stays moist and crawling with life.
• Top bucket (lots of holes + lid): This is the feed zone. All the weed leaves, stems, fruits, veggies, cardboard scraps, everything organic goes here. The worms go absolutely nuts in this layer. You just keep adding to it, cap it with the lid, and the cycle never stops.

The beauty of the setup is it works like a living conveyor belt:
• Feed goes in the top,
• worms and decomposers break it down as it drops through,
• microbes and predators cycle it,
• and worm tea drips out the bottom.

Every time I grab a handful out of the bin, I’m not just pulling castings. I’m pulling a living inoculation package — worms, microbes, rove beetles, Hypoaspis, springtails, isopods, enzymes, castings, everything. That handful can recharge old soil, boost a new mix, or top-dress a pot and bring the whole ecosystem with it.

That’s why this bin is better than any new bag of soil. New soil is sterile. This is culture. And culture has a double meaning — it’s a biological culture that keeps itself alive, and it’s cannabis culture, because everything in this system is built on cannabis feeding cannabis.

This is why the main culture bin is dope asf. It’s my forever factory. It makes castings, it makes tea, it breeds predators, and it keeps the conveyor belt moving so I never start from zero. Nothing wasted, everything recycled, life stacked on life.

Cannabis growing cannabis.

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Yup this is true and to add to it the Main microbe in the gut biome of an earthworm is purple non sulphur bacteria its a facultative anaerobe :wink: and most of the probiotics in the bin , when handled bare handed, can actually pass through the skin and is of great benefit to your mental and physical well being . Good shit my friend :pray: bravo :clap:

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– Predator Crew in the Main Culture Bin

So my main culture bin (the 3-bucket worm setup) just leveled up heavy. I added in the three hitters to roll with the red wigglers, and now it’s not just a worm bin anymore — it’s a fully armed ecosystem.
• Rove Beetles (Dalotia) – these are the surface soldiers. They live in the mulch layer and topsoil, always patrolling. Fungus gnat larvae? Thrips pupae? Done. The dope thing is they don’t just work for a week and die off — they breed right in the bin. Once they’re in, they’re established, and every scoop of culture I take out is carrying rove beetle reinforcements with it.
• Hypoaspis miles (Stratiolaelaps scimitus) – these are the underground snipers. They live in the first couple inches of soil, and they’re all about keeping larvae and micro-pests in check. They love the moist, organic vibe of the culture bin, so they actually settle in and stay. Just like the beetles, they don’t need constant reintroductions. They become part of the forever crew.
• Neoseiulus californicus – this is my canopy guard. Most folks see them as just a quick fix for spider mites, but here’s the difference: these ones don’t just die off when food is gone. If there’s mites, they eat. If not, they switch over to pollen, spores, and little micro-prey to keep themselves going. They’re survivors. That means once they’re seeded in the bin, they cycle right along with everything else. Any time I spread culture, I’m also spreading californicus into the canopy — built-in insurance for the long game. They’re not a throwaway predator, they’re permanent players.

And of course, Red Wigglers are the backbone. They’re the forever crew at the base of it all, shredding scraps and spitting out castings full of that worm gut biome magic. They’re the engine that keeps the bin alive.

So now with worms + rove beetles + Hypoaspis + Neoseiulus, my culture bin isn’t just recycling scraps — it’s a self-sustaining IPM system. Every handful I pull out is castings, worms, microbes, AND predators. That means every time I mix soil or top-dress a pot, I’m dropping an entire ecosystem with its own built-in defense squad.

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Vermiculture is incredibly beneficial. I have a couple 50 gallon ceramic bathtubs turned into worm bins and am working on building a 12x12 compost bin out of cinder blocks that will function as a large worm bin . I just emptied both of them after two years of adding inputs and the worms turned everything into black gold. I use the common red wiggler tiger worm , you can dig them up in your yard :grin: , they are crazy fast at moving through material. some normal earthworms have found there way in also but it’s 98% tiger worm factory.
My smart pots are crawling with worms , so many I remove them at times and throw them in the veggie garden.
Permaculture methods are the long term solution, I’m starting to make liquid plant ferments from cannabis leaves and other things . I’m going to start a knf garden to support specific fermentation goals with targeted plant species like comfry , clover , fruits and flowers that can be used during different plant growth stages. cold ice extraction of dry cannabis leaf material yields a sweet brown liquid that clones and seedling love.
It’s nice to see other gardens embracing healthier sustainable farm practice’s.
On a different note land race strains have acclimated to there soil and climate conditions over time , what most people don’t do is make soil that would resemble the native soil they grow in , some like mineral earth soil some like rich organic material , figuring out what the landrace wants goes a long ways toward its overall quality.

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@Heritagefarms Yo that’s wild bro, I gotta ask — how long did it take you to get your worm populations like that? You make it sound like the bins just explode with them once they’re rolling. Did you seed it heavy at the start or did they just multiply over time?

Here’s where I’m at. I ordered 40 bags of Soil King soil a while back, and all my used soil I’ve been mixing with leaves and putting into worm bins. My worm bins have a soil + leaf base, and then on top I layer leaves and fruits. That’s the main setup. But I’ve also got a bunch of garbage bags stuffed with just soil + leaves — no fruits on top, no bins — just sealed bags sitting there.

I’ve got one main worm bin that’s my hotspot — that’s where I throw all the good cultures I buy and want to stick around. I don’t dig out of it as much as I probably should, but you got me thinking I should be pulling more from that and using it to charge up my new or used soil with some Happy Frog amendment.

My question is: do you think I could just add worms into those garbage bags with the soil + leaves and let them run it, or do they really need to be in bins with airflow to compost properly?

I’m trying to scale the worm game up to match the amount of soil I’m sitting on. Just wondering how you went from starting out to having worms crawling through everything like you described.

And for context, I’m running pots — so all my soil is constantly rotating in and out. My goal is to have every batch of soil I reuse or mix absolutely loaded with worms and culture so the cycle never slows down.

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The soil in the smart pots is on year 4, they are 80 gallon pots , I threw maybe five -10 works in each pot the end of the first year and now if I scrap the top inch of soil away in any spot I see 2-3 adults and 3-5 small babies moving around. They can’t get out of the pots and live for a couple years so they start to multiply fast.
The veggie garden set up with the bathtubs gets a lot of manure and veggies mixed with a little dirt and hay. Red worms love manure and I try to keep the mix about 1/4 manur 1/4 veggies/fruits 1/4 dirt 1/4 leaf material in layers so the worms have a pocket of leaf litter/grass . I normally empty every year , I leave about 5 gallons of the old material in place as a starter and reload the bins , by the end of summer they are full of worms and worm castings , I periodically feed them more manur and food scrapes.

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So when you “empty it” does that mean it is ready to be used for growing cannabis :slight_smile: :grinning:

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Haven’t tried it on the herb yet , I dedicate it all to veggie garden beds so far. I add organic dry fertilizers to the cannabis pots and that seems to be enough food to keep the worms in there happy, kinda surprising really.

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Appreciate you breaking that down :pray: what I learned from your system is I could do something similar with mine. Like I could take a big tarp, dump out one of my bins, leave a little bit of the old material at the bottom as a starter, then load it back up with new leaves and old soil to keep cycling.

The part that really clicked for me is that I can use that compost right away to make ready-made soil. If I take that finished material and mix it about 50/50 with soil on the tarp, I can bag it up in black contractor bags and have living, worm-ready soil sitting there waiting for whenever I need it. Basically, I’d always have a stash of preloaded culture soil ready to go instead of scrambling to build it last minute.

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Update – Fire Quartz Chips in the Mix

On top of all this culture work with the worms and predators, I’m about to pull the trigger on something new too. I’m gonna grab a load of fire quartz chips and start working them straight into my soil.

The way I see it, fire quartz can pull double duty — acting like a mineral amendment and like perlite at the same time. Structurally, the chips will keep the soil loose and airy just like perlite does, but they’re not some dead white puff — they’re actual mineral. Over time, with all the worm and microbe action, the edges break down and release trace elements back into the soil. So instead of just filling space, they’re feeding the culture too.

I want my pots to be loaded with not just biology but also minerals that carry energy. Fire quartz is high-vibe crystal medicine in rock form, and if it can bring that into the soil mix while helping drainage and aeration, that’s culture on another level.

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Look into sequestering carbon in soil, thats really the game changer in soil…and honestly, one of the reasons why the quality of our vegetables has gone down so drastically in such a short period of time…cover crops are key for this, as well as no-till

Interesting tidbit about that

" A Kushi Institute analysis of nutrient data from 1975 to 1997 found that average calcium levels in 12 fresh vegetables dropped 27 percent; iron levels 37 percent; vitamin A levels 21 percent, and vitamin C levels 30 percent. A similar study of British nutrient data from 1930 to 1980, published in the British Food Journal,found that in 20 vegetables the average calcium content had declined 19 percent; iron 22 percent; and potassium 14 percent. Yet another study concluded that one would have to eat eight oranges today to derive the same amount of Vitamin A as our grandparents would have gotten from one."

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@PurpleFlamethrower if you wanted to get a jumpstart on your worm population you could always just buy some to add in. Pet shops and bait shops sell a few different varieties of worms for cheap. When I lived in a real country area they actually sold crickets at the bait shop too used to get them there for my bearded dragons cheaper then the pet store lol

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That’s real talk right there. Reading your post clicked something for me — I realized what I’ve been doing with my worm bins is literally carbon sequestration in motion. Every time I toss leaves back in, mix in scraps, let the worms and microbes go to work, I’m stacking layers of carbon right into the soil without even thinking about it.

I always looked at it like “culture, culture, culture,” but really what I’m building is humus. That dark, rich, spongey stuff that holds water, minerals, microbes — the real backbone of living soil. That’s why every time I dig into my bins, the material feels more alive than the last round. That’s carbon turning into culture.

And you’re right about the nutrient decline too. Makes sense why modern crops are weaker — they burned the whole cycle out with tilling and bottles. What we’re doing flips that back around. Covering, feeding, letting the biology cycle everything, keeping that carbon locked in instead of lost.

For me it’s not just some theory, it’s something I see happening in real time. My bins are alive proof that carbon and culture go hand in hand.

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Yes my friend we call it “building soil”

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Appreciate the reply bro :pray: that makes a lot of sense. I actually already have a pretty big worm population going — all packed into one 20-gallon bin. I started with like 150 worms and now it’s way beyond that, every time I lift the lid it’s crawling.

I had been thinking about buying more, but honestly I see now that’s probably just money wasted. I’ve been talking in my self-reflection updates about how I used to spend on too many little things that didn’t really add up. Now I’m trying to stay locked in on the meat and potatoes — focusing on what I’ve already got instead of chasing excess.

And if I’m being real, to buy enough worms to actually make a big difference would cost a lot. Like $200 worth of worms would probably only barely match what’s already in my bin. That’s not really much of a come-up, so the juice isn’t worth the squeeze there. Your idea is solid though — and it’s the same one I had at first too — but I think the smarter play for me is letting what I already have multiply.

The way I see it, worms multiply based on the space and medium they’ve got — kind of like starting seeds in a tray. If you never transplant them, they just get rootbound and cap out. But once you spread them into more soil, they finally have room to grow and fill the space. That’s how I’m gonna run it: dump a bin onto a tarp, mix it 50/50 with old soil and compost, spread it out, and then load that into contractor bags. At the same time, I’ll leave about 5 gallons worth inside my 20-gallon bin, refill it with fresh leaves and old soil, and let that cycle start all over again. That way I’m spreading the herd out into new spaces while always keeping my main culture bin alive as the mother source.

And to add, my main culture bin isn’t just worms. It’s where I’ve been stacking all my original cultures — white worms, rove beetles, predatory mites, and a bunch of other beneficials. They’ve all stayed alive in there, so every time I pull from that bin, I’m not just multiplying worms — I’m multiplying the entire ecosystem I’ve been building. That’s the real goal for me: spreading full culture, not just castings.

I haven’t actually dumped my main culture bin out before — I’ve only ever been adding to it and building it. So when I finally do that spread, it’s gonna feel like a huge milestone. I just clawed into it with my bare hands the other day and all I saw was straight worm gold. That moment made me realize how much life is really stacked up in there and how powerful it’ll be once I start moving it out.

I’ll probably update this with a video or some pictures soon so it’s easier to visualize.

Really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and perspective man :pray: it gave me a lot to think about and helped me sharpen up my approach. Much respect for the game you’re giving, it’s motivating as hell to see how far this can really go.

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I don’t blame ya man I’m a broke mfer so if I can get something free and useful that’s the route I’m going lol like I was about to buy some plant stakes then I remembered I have an iv stand that will work just fine :rofl: one of my plants tie downs is a hoodie string :joy: it’s the struggle out here

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Yes it is but I’m working on it for y’all fellas :wink:

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Slow and steady wins the race

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