Thoughts on the cheese trait

Hi all, it’s been a while!

Been getting back to preparing for a grow and have been thinking about the cheese again.

Having looked across many boards, looking at various cheese strains being grown on other sites, and seeing the selection out there, I have had some thoughts on this coveted trait.

After having seen various grows of strains that had cheese in the lineage, and having grown black cheese myself, I’m noticing that the real cheddary phenotype does not pop up all the time.
For example, when growing the black cheese, there was not really even a hint of it while growing. Plus a few years back when I grew out some kaliman gear, the viney shape of the exodus ancestor was right, but I got a much more caramel smelling bud.

This leads me to think that this trait may be very recessive.
Think about it: if the story of the Skunk #1 seed found by the exodus collective is true, this would mean that the most stable and influential strain in the 20th century threw out a probably one in a hundred thousand mutation.

Given as well that the original exodus cut is said to be resistant to reversal, my thoughts are that this is a very rare genetic mutation.

From what I gather, the real cheese was passed around the UK in clone form for years, with notable cuts being known as “the bright side cut” and “suicide cut”. While I have not had the chance to grow out the original big buddha family farms cheese, this seems to have been the most worked line that had retained that characteristic.

While I am sure that the real stinker is out there (and it seems to once in a while show its face in kinda unrelated lines), I think another line breeding project, similar to what Milo did, is need in order to stabilize this thing.

Have you had a real strong cheese pop up?
Might I be on to something or totally off base?
What are your thoughts, overgrow? :thinking:

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I had frontend of cheese from LA Confidential x UK Cheese. That was a top 5 unique cannabis experience for me in my life. Right now I have Lemon Cake which is Lemon Skunk x UK Cheese and it has a backend flavor of cheese but it is not dominant.

Here’s the Terp report on it.


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latest is that cheese and skunk smell is the same chemical. maybe someone can confirm. they don’t have skunks outside the Americas. maybe they are different, but the power of suggestion is strong. cheese bx from hazeman was cheesy.

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Yes! Totally spot on, it seems to sort of vary in dominance between phenotypes. Did the LA Confidential cross produce a few cheese dominant phenos, or did you find it was only one?

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Cheese is a Skunk pheno from what i know.

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I did not grow it but it was grown by this guy that grew for the wu tang clan. He is in Massachusetts. The bag came with two different pheno’s though and one was really disgustingly cheesy to where it made me hesitant to that kind of cannabis for awhile. The other was more funky. The effect was very interesting though. The body high from the LA Confidential and the head high from the UK Cheese were each so pronounced that it felt like they were separated and like my head was not part of my body.

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If I remember correctly, I think isovaleric acid was suspected to be a big contributor in that cheesy feet smell. Though given that it comes from a skunk strain, it would not surprise me at all if a bunch of thiols were adding to the nasty! :smiley:

Honestly I would love to see some analysis of the volatiles through mass spec sometime to see what spikes, as I think the cannabis industry is looking too much at just terpenes alone and not other (potentially valuable) volatiles.

Article on the cheese smell chemicals: Why Do Some Cannabis Strains Smell Like Cheese? | Leafly

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Ya know, from what I have experienced, that seems a common scenario. Two similar plants are grown, and then one becomes wildly cheesy, but the other is more in line with its parents.

It kind of feels like finding a unicorn sometimes.

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Yes i found it in SSH, one of my favorites

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Hopefully you find that Cheddar your looking for. I have an Exodus Cheese cut from my buddy in Cali(He said it was gifted to him,originally came from the Subcool crew,dont rip my head off if Im wrong,just repeating exactly what was said to me) Smells like straight powder cheddar(the kind you put on popcorn) I opened a jar in my friends room the other night she said “Cheese? I can smell it from here” it has one of the best if not the best highs I could ask for,It gives me this warm feeling in my stomach and about 5 mins later you feel everything wash away. I dont sell beans as of now,but I do give out testers. If you would like a pack of the Exodus Cheese x Royal Wedding F1s your more than welcome to them. Either way I hope you find that Cheese soon its not one to be without! :peace_symbol:

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With cheese your better with a good hybrid Vs a S1 unless your really lucky or even better source a cut do remember it’s a skunk from 88 sensi seeds stock so it’s far less inbred than most skunks hence why it’s trickier to breed with it’s just a funny one

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How do you get wu-tang weed? I just have Tupac tranquilizers. Biggie benzos…I dunno.

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Surely karmas odb would class as wutang weed

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Chop that down
Pass it all around
Lyrics get hard
Quick cement to the ground.

A name homage to wutang I wouldn’t consider wutang weed. I want Ghostface to hand me a bag.

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The guy now runs a cultivation company in Mass.

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Skunk#1 isn’t stable at all. There’s many different phenotypes. I’ve grown lots of it and have never found any cheese. So it’s hard for me to believe the origin story. Not saying it’s not true, just that it must be a very rare expression if that’s the case. Me personally I don’t like the cheese flavor or the strange mild head high that I get from it. But it definitely grows well and is a good yielder.

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Definitely not mild sounds like you maybe ain’t had a proper cut then?? don’t get me wrong tolerance builds fast but with no tolerance it hits pretty good Ime suppose it’s personal taste as well ain’t it I agree earlier skunk1 isn’t stable but the very worked lines off it are more stable ime

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The Sk#1 I’m talking about is from Sensi seeds purchased in 1994. I don’t know about other versions of it. But that’s my standard that everything else is judged by. As far as the cheese. I’ve grown a few legit cuts 15 years ago and made lots of crosses. I might be the one who feels that way but I don’t like them. Every time I say that I get the same response. That I haven’t tried to real thing. I’m guessing it’s probably just me because I don’t like a lot of popular cuttings that people think are so great.

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Could be just you n personal taste true bud the reason I ask is there is more fake cuts of cheese in north America than there is real ones and it’s a sensi seeds skunk1 popped in 88 that was grown out by a few folk they kept it then later on one of them sorted a friend some cuts that were for the exodus crew and the rests history even some of the clone sellers over there are passing off bluepsycho as cheese so that don’t help the situation I know quite a few who still keep her along with some of the other UK cuts she isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but I like her like you say though different strokes for different folks

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I know what you mean. Notice this a lot in purchased cheese that is just not cheesy.

I always found real cheese funk in seeds from the original Big Buddha Seeds. Big Buddha Cheese, Chiesel, even Cookies and Cream Cheese all had that real funk in 100% of the seeds I grew.

I would look for anything bred from Big Buddha Cheese.

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