Three leaves? Whats up with that?

Hello OG! Starting a grow of some Swami organic Talk of Kabul/ cherrybomb x mazar afghani. I have four seedlings and one is, well…


Also this is my second grow from seed and my first photo.



The rest of the crew!
Any tips are welcome
Have a nice day!

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It’s like a 4 leaf clover but better.

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I think the term is trifoliate? Definitely cool and uncommon :metal:

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I never know which one is the right term lol. I’ve had 3 of them pop up.

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Well thats pretty friggin cool! Do you have any pics in flower? If you top it would it grow six or nine sets?!

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Luck of the irish i guess!:grin:

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The first one I had didn’t continue the 3 leaf mutation after the first set of true leaves and the last one I had was pretty neglected late so I didn’t take any pictures during later flower. The 3rd is actually still growing right now but not flowering yet. I did top it, though.

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Tri nodial i would say

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Whorled phyllotaxy seems to be the closest definition for this phenomenon. Trifoliate suggests three leaflets per leaf and another term that’s often said, triploid, has to do with the total amount of chromosomes which isn’t something so easily discernable with the naked eye and testing via flow cytometry is a standard procedure for determining ploidy. I think whorled phyllotaxy is the closest term for what you’re observing in that seedling. Many blessings and much love

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This is absolutely correct. The correct term is whorled phyllotaxy. So much misinformation in the cannabis community calling it trifoliation or even polyploidy. Thank you for a thread without me going insane.

@Recklesdeadguy It’s a fairly common genetic mutation, allowing a larger yield if it stays consistent. However, this mutation has a high likelihood of snapping out of it, and eventually switching back to 2 shoots per node.

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Thanks everbody for the information! Highly appreciated

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Less light penetration
More bud sites yes , higher yield not sure

: )

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Adding on, something I’ve read but don’t know how accurate it is, whorled plants are more likely to be males upon sexual maturation. I’ve had just one whorled plants myself from BOGBubble seed stock and it was male so my limited experience in that regard matches up to what I’ve read. Many blessings and much love

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Interesting. I’ve never heard that. I’ve experienced it myself about a dozen times, all with feminized plants. Only 1 of them maintained the three shoots at each node through flower, which gave it more bud sites to train for an even canopy.

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Howdy @resimax, I totally believe you and your experience and I’m grateful for you sharing here on the forums for myself and others to learn from. The info I was sharing was based on the following comment from Sam from back in the day on Icmag from a thread titled “Whorled Phyllotaxy - Info Please?” or something like that:

They are whorled phyllotaxy, I made a cross of a male Whorled Phyllotaxy, which I seem to find more of, and a female Whorled Phyllotaxy and got no whorled offspring.
I like the way they look. Do people see more males or females with this?
I kept several females around they are still whorled.
I would like to see ones that had whorled Tri stems on not only off the main stalk, like is common, but also then again on the sets of branches off the first tri stems, and again from the 2nd that are on the first. So it is tri whorled on tri whorled on tri whorled branches. Never seen it, I have seen a few tri seconday branches just a few.

-SamS

It’s a great thread and page 2 of that conversation is pretty neat. One of the contributing commenters mentions an idea of the whorled phenomena stems from apical dominance and auxins. Sam elaborates on progeny of these types and suggests those interested try out selfing a plant exhibiting the trait so it seems likely that it could be incorporated in feminized plants. I think I’m reading you correctly that you found them in feminized seeds stock and not simply female plants from regular seed stocks.

The above mentioned commenter who mentions the idea of apical dominance also mentions they can also be called tricots which is something I learned today. It’s such a trip to read something again from so long ago and see new things presented that I glossed over the first time and didn’t retain as strongly in my memory. Many blessings and much love

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Right. I’ve never seen them in regular seeds, though I haven’t grown as many of them and it isn’t that common of a mutation to be fair.

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Only if they have 3 cotyledon. Here’s a tricot I grew:

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I have a green crack s1 that just shot out 3 cotyledons and 3 true leaves! Will try to remember to update!

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The above actually has 3 true leaves if you look close. Bad angle :slight_smile:

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This is an excellent point to clarify! Thank you, as my earlier comment could have easily been misleading in that regard due to my oversight. Massive respect. Many blessings and much love

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