Well, don’t say I didn’t warn ya!
In addendum! 
I cut a part of that bud up pretty good and…
loaded’r up…
It produced vapor on the first run through.
Round 2 coming soon!
Good morning,
WHAB
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It just struck me. That brown bud I cut out?..
Two sides. One side and then the other.
I can’t imaging that this is heat related, not even light damage, I wouldn’t think.
This side…
…actually looks pretty good!
Before that idea hit my melon I had taken several Micro pictures from several sides of that bud…
I’m going to try and separate some of the future Micro shots between the obvious 2 sides…
I’m also going to Loupe it and confirm or not what the Micro shots are showing…
Could it be they’re “cooked” on one side, there’s no way…is there?
Not in the position I just found it in, it’s much too far away from the bulb there … BUT, it might be from a time when I was having growth too close to the bulb and had trouble pulling them back, then shook my Yoyo’s ALL loose with my trimmings …I’m really puzzled.
The way they’ve wandered around the space, especially early on was an issue. I just don’t know.
Okay, gonna sleep (rest) on that!
Good morning!,
WHAB
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Hmm, wind burn? (from a fan)?
Cheers
G
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Hello my friend! 
Possibly, yes.
However, as with the recently formulated Bulb Burn Theory expressed above, the offending side would need to be nearest to the source of that damage, I would think. This damage was on the opposite side away from the fan when I noticed it in what was its position at that time.
But, with these running loose for a good little bit and then when controlled the dumb-dumb loosened all those controls, they were therefore, for a time, very near the bulb. Parts of a couple of them were burned…killed by heat, direct heat virtually.
There is a chance that that damaged side was near the bulb, bent over nearer the burning bulb, and when I trimmed off the dead stuff, I know I did that at least once when it first happened, when I stood them up that side would then become the back out of view when I know I was in there at least one other time to trim the damage back and possibly just didn’t see it…
and - theoretically, with the increasing weight it could have spun (slightly turned) within their confines (the hooks on the Yoyo’s) making that side visible again…or maybe it just continued to die when I first trimming them, then organized them, and it’s only now that it completed their dying becoming way more visible to the naked eye (at least these medically deficient naked eyes! ).
I did Loupe them earlier today - 30&60X’s. I do see more Amber than what I see in other parts of the Girls…but, there is more here than there. They’re not to the degree displayed in the Scoped images. What my naked eye sees is not that Amber and certainly not Brown (the good Brown, not the bad brown! ) as it seems to be in those previous scoped images.
I’m going to scope them now, by individual sides, and I’ll post them up as soon as.
Thank you so much for the discussion, brother!
I have learned much from it, even IF I overburden it, the discussion…
Thanks, man! 
,
WHAB
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Scoped Garden II Flower 89 Dam Days!!!
Burned!
The above is quoted because that is when I was ready to post the results of the scoping session…the one I said I’d be back “as soon as” for…that one.
When my box starting resisting the Man (ME )
When my attempt to compose a post, my previous post had 37 minutes of elapsed time…
While that was happened I tried to grab that screenshot and it quit responding…
That’s me trying to save a screenshot of the screenshot of my Box acting poorly!
I tried to force close each of those 2 events. I spent a good amount of time trying.
I was forced to reboot the Box (hold down power button typed of force).
Previously, rebooting each as needed does eventually return it to work, predominantly.
It was 12:03AM on my PC when I decided to reboot the Box.
As I was forcing it to close I took at look directly at the “clock” on my PC - I then quickly woke my phone up and it was really 12:07AM.
It was about 12:19AM when I could see the time on the PC again, my hope Window was basically open but not really usable…the desktop icons and task tray take more than a few minutes before they are usable. Just staring at your wallpaper until those icons decide to return to work!
After all that and then waiting another approximately 15/17/20 and this time 24 additional minutes waiting for my browser is fully opened and usable.
Wow.
Now, where were we?
Oh, yeah…
Scoped Garden II Flower 89 Dam Days!!!
Burned!
Batch loading is A LOT faster. Only thing is, it puts the last image in that set at the 1st position
I am correcting them.
The images in both groups are treating the lower half and the upper half as 3 parts each.
About 3 images per of each part. 6 parts in all.
Scoped Garden II Flower 89 Dam Days!!!
Burned, Not!
Same rules apply…except that I spent a lot more time on the last group, the larger section at the top.
I see now it didn’t flip the last for the first, this time
These 3 are not duplicates, I took 3 shots. I was able to hold the focus the best there. I think I have it figured out here at the desk, finally!
I did also buy a different USB A to USB C adapter. It’s a lot more stable and firm feeling…a better connection.
Again, that Amber and Good Brown is not viewable … to my own eyes 
I will also say here, the Microscope, the “wired” one, did turn out to be more correct of the 2 I tried last go round, when I didn’t have a Loupe of any sort.
I did just load up some of the Burned Bud…
That’s 1 pass through, where 3 have been typical.
Maybe Pre-Bulb-Burning becomes a thing to advance the Flower stage, develop MORE Good Brown Faster?
I’ve been waiting to send it through again, waiting for the additional time it’s taken me to compose this post.
This is a shot of the Burned, Not side…
It doesn’t look bad, it looks pretty good to my eyes… at least, your results will certainly vary!
Total time since the elapsed time was 37 minutes when I started attempting to compose this?
About 2:30 hours.
Good morning! Unless follow-up discussion occurs, I’ll be getting off here early - I’m going to try…
Make it a great day!
ahhh!,
WHAB
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Ok No need to reply tonight! Sounds like your computers giving you trouble
But I just want to say I’ve spent the last 15 minutes reading thru this thread and it’s been a pleasure
You have a beautiful home
I’ll be tuned in from now on
Also: I’d be weary of brown buds especially top buds that turn
It’s almost never a good thing
I don’t have a ton of experience in that neck of the woods but from what I do know I would expect fungal possibly from being too dense, airflow etc
it could be something else but I would at least wait for someone smarter then myself to maybe weigh in as well before risking it
I see you say burnt but unless there’s a light that you had raised out of the picture I’m not sure how it would have
burning generally bleaches and you almost always see a weird bud growth in the light side where as this buds structure homogenous all the way around
Oh…
it might be wind burn
The fan is right there
But still, is it the closest bud to the fan?
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I think the trichomes look pretty slumped over. They aren’t standing erect like a younger version of themselves. Usually that happens in the final days.
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Hey there friend!
Thank you, sir!
I want to let you know that I saw your previous Trichome message and I’ve been wanting to ask you what you meant by what you said but I didn’t want to burden you.
I have been thinking about what you said the entire time since you posted it.
Would you mind elaborating just a bit on what you were saying, please?
IF you don’t recall the previous discussion I’ll try and find it.
I’m hoping you know precisely what I’m referring to and can just spit out the answer!
I could try to “Paraphrase” it but I don’t want to get the “phrase” wrong and that causes us to start chasing our tails!
I really have been contemplating what you said since you said it. Just didn’t want to bother you.
Thank you for this discussion, my friend! It is always appreciated!
,
WHAB
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If you can excuse the free hand computer graphics, the trichomes look kind of slumped over when things are complete.
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Hello @Shamus. Happy to make your digital acquaintance .
Thank you for all of your kind words!
They really are appreciated! Thank you!
Happy to have you aboard!
I’m pretty sure, in this instance, it must have been one of the ones that came in very close contact with the HID bulb early on. I know I saw the damage caused to 2 buds I know touched the bulb.
Others were very near the bulb but not physically touching it as the others did. They were still bulb damaged by their proximity to the bulb.
That bud is probably from when that happened.
And, I did consider potential mold damaged and have looked specifically for that. I partially opened 2 buds (spread them out a little) to look inside of them. I see no mold issues.
And, I came back here after my last post right before your post, your message posted as I was looking at my post and considering my Edit Add.
I came back to add…
Edit Add: I am in no way absolving myself of blame for this (burn), that (too hot Res. (very short period of time but it still happened and I caused it)) and the other (allowing/causing the E.C. to become too high even though I knew better and intended to never allow it to get that high)!
When I saw your message early this morning I declined editing my previous post to avoid any further discussion. I was done for that night/morning but I often return for something that ‘might’ be important to the story.
Thank you for the discussion, my new friend!
,
WHAB
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Thank you for that, sincerely!
You previous said something like ‘those trichome look damaged (colloquially dead, I think you meant)’.
I am going to start the Flush process very soon.
Thanks, man…I do hope you know how I much I really do appreciate our discussions!
I have learned much from you, friend!
,
WHAB
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lol while I was posting that diagram I was like “ohhh this is going to blow some minds”.
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Were you thinking someone would mention Peyronie’s Disease.???
Btw, I understood perfectly what you were imparting! And, I do thank you for it!
,
WHAB
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Now that’s a web page you can’t unsee! Oh my!
I was actually talking about that little diagram was my closely guarded industry secret to figuring out when the shit is definitely done on the day that happens to the trichome. It pinpoints ripeness of the buuuuuds 
I had to do literally a thousand observations to tease it out of the plant.
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to your
Ah, about your expertly crafted diagram seeing the light of day for the first time - I feel special!
Yes, I’ve noticed when you get on the scent you don’t stop! Your scientific work is exceptional!
Peyronie’s Disease was the first thing I thought of after seeing your diagram…okay, no, it wasn’t my first thought, it was my second thought!
,
WHAB
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Dang! I was expecting to be out in the garage installing that tool and sharpening mower blades then getting out and mowing hours and hours ago.
And, my delayed departure has nothing at all to do with these discussions here.
It’s been the DMV, the Dept. of Revenue and the VA. Wow!
I’ve been wrestling with the VA for literal hours over something I am sure was solved months ago. It’s concerning a Prescription first prescribed by one of my out of the system Doctors and them telling me now that I have to go back there to make my request to Reorder it.
I know for sure that we went through this once. I told the VA then that I may not EVER see that Doctor again but that doesn’t erase my need for that medication.
They adopted the authority/responsibility for it back then.
Now we’re chasing our tails over it - something I was trying to avoid with my friend @JoeCrowe.
I’m fully expecting then to come back with “Oh, you’re right Mr. Xxxxxxxxx, we did accept responsibility for that medication”.
,
WHAB
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That sir was a 2 pointer!!
Cheers
G
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I had a no good day (the day before yesterday now). I was awoken in excruciating pain and that just sort of laid out my path for the day. I wound up going back to bed - multiple times.
I did yesterday what I said I’d do the day before that. The 5005 knock-off worked great - after I did light sanding to the post the grinder swings on. The grinder worked great.
My technique needs some help!
Now…
Garden II Flower 92!!!
NINETY DAMN TWO!!!
Garden II Flush Day 1
I’m trying Botanicare Clearex this time.
Per their Pre-Harvest directions - yes, I followed them to the T, too!
I mixed 5ml per gallon of water.
Pre-harvest: Drain all existing nutrient solution. Refill reservoir with Clearex and fresh water only. Begin running this solution during the last 3 – 7 days before harvest
I completed the Refill right about 1AM. The circulating pump in the Chiller is rated at 160gph. 1/2 hour = 80 gallons. I’ll check pH at 1:30 and that should afford me a brief window to get it close before the 2AM feeding.
pH after refill before adjustment…
E.C. 0.5…
Environmentals - the hinged door has been open about 1 hour at that point.
AC #3 75RH Test 07292022
1% Low Deviation
AC #3 32RH Test 07292022
6% High Deviation
Back to work!
Good morning!
Make it a great WEEKEND!
After adjusting pH imma ,
WHAB
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After circulating through 2 full cycles I was met with this…
A 120ml squirt and 15 additional minutes (40 gallons recirculated) got us here…
I’ll let that feed 1 cycle and check it when it returns to the Res.
Remember that Before and After picture above? The one where I harvested the one low hanging bud on the right?
I just took the one from the left…
From left to right, bottom to top (but, since it was hanging upside down it’s the opposite! )
I’ve been vaping that last one I took. I’m working off all the “Burned” side, first.
It’s very good! Very effective!
Make it a great day, folks! ,
WHAB
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This is that branch above through the wired microscope…these are all from the top of that branch.
Last was made first…I corrected.
I’m out…my pillow is wondering where I’ve gotten off to!
,
WHAB
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