What about Super Lemon Haze?

[gerivast3rpz]

Whats good fam?

Since I was young, I’ve always had a deep appreciation for Lemon Haze and everything this strain represents. Two years ago, when I started my journey as a grower, of course I began with the long-dreamed-of Super Lemon Haze; aaand a Power Plant. A beautiful, resinous, fragrant plant—exactly as I had hoped—and the high was completely therapeutic! Any sign of depression would vanish, anxiety would fade away, and it would always end in laughter or some kind of physical activity. As my barber would say, “Couch Locked? Id rather explore the Atlantic Forest!”

A few months passed and I realized that maybe the Brazilian seed bank, with its hundreds of strains, wasn’t of the great quality I had expected. If that questionable Lemon Haze was already that good, then the “original” from Green House must be the reincarnation of Buddha in a plant, right? So I went after it… and to my surprise? It wasn’t much different, and not all the seeds even germinated—honestly, I was disappointed…

I gave up on the idea until I met the illustrious FPunk, who gave me some insights. I realized that the legendary, good original no longer really existed as I had imagined, and that we should instead look for something similar…

A few months passed, and I finally worked up the courage to start a male pheno hunt with Bangin Ticket (in the little space I have, so I foresee it taking a few years haha). I’m looking for the pheno with the closest possible aroma, and then I’ll analyze other traits like resin production, size, side branching, and so on.

I also plan to do a mother hunt later with some Skywalker Hazes I have here, but I’m open to ideas and suggestions!

Have you ever tried SLH? Do you enjoy a more citrusy/limonene terpene profile? Do you have any recommendations along those lines? Let me know!

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Salve família! Tudo certo?
Desde mais novo sempre tive apreço pela Lemon Haze e tudo que essa genética representa. 2 anos atrás, quando comecei minha jornada como jardineiro, obviamente comecei com a tão sonhada Super Lemon Haze e uma Power Plant. Planta linda, resinada, cheirosa exatamente como eu esperava e lombra totalmente terapêutica! Qualquer indício de depressão sumia, ansiedade se acabava, sempre acabava em risadas ou algum exercício físico. Como meu barbeiro diria, “Morgar? Eu quero é desbravar a Mata Atlântica!”
Alguns meses se passaram e eu descobri que talvez o banco brasileiro, com centenas de strains, talvez não fosse da ótima qualidade que eu esperava. Se a Lemon Haze duvidosa já era tudo isso, a “original” da Green House seria a encarnação de Buda numa planta então? Assim fui atrás… e para a minha surpresa? Não era nada muito diferente, nem todas germinaram, honestamente fiquei decepcionado…
Desisti da ideia até conhecer o ilustre FPunk, que me deu uns insights, percebi que não existia mais a original boa lendária como eu esperava, e que deveríamos ir em busca de algo similar…
Alguns meses se passaram, finalmente tomei coragem e comecei um Pheno Hunt de machos da Bangin Ticket (no pouco espaço que tenho, então prevejo alguns anos de demora kkkk). Estou buscando aquele pheno com o cheiro mais próximo possível, depois analisando outras características como resina, tamanho, ramificação lateral e etc.
Pretendo fazer um hunting da mãe futuramente. em algumas Skywalker Hazes que tenho aqui, porém estou aberto a ideias e sugestões!

Vocês já provaram a SLH? Curtem um terpeno mais cítrico? Tem alguma recomendação nessa pegada? Conta pra nois

[ervasagrada]

Eu tenho bastante cruza com SLH

Recebi um pack de F6 do Ethos há um tempo atrás.

Plantas super fáceis de cultivar, rendimento alto, 11 semanas na flora

Terpenos cítrico beeem doce
Pancada cerebral enérgica

As cruzas que fiz com elas foram:
SLH F7
SLH F8
SLH F6 x Dead Hot Strawberries F2
SLH F7 x Chernobyl F2
SLH F7 x Shishkaberry F3
SLH F7 x Romulan

Além dessas eu levei também uma cruza de
SLH F6 x Wedding Cake que me dava ansiedade

Recomendo muito, uma das minhas favoritas até hoje

[gerivast3rpz]

Caracas, aí sim meu mano. Bom demais ter feedback da Ethos SLH! Já provei algumas strains desse banco comprando de associações, mas a lendária Lemon ainda não.

Confesso que tive resistência em ir atrás de Ethos, pelo preço meio salgado… Mas pelo seu feedback, acredito que vale a pena eu ir atrás de algumas fêmeas deles.

Valeu demais pela recomendação Bro ótimas brisas pra ti

[opneto]

Cara, uma das melhores plantas que levei aqui foram de um pack de 5 SLH da Green House que comprei em 2018 no Chile… era citrico, limão puro mas tinha uma amora! Foi fantastico, das 5 seeds 4 germinaram, das 4, 3 tinham essa amora, 1 era so limao! Levei ainda por 1 ano e precisei me mudar, perdi o corte e galera q ficou com ele perdeu tb!
Até hoje eu vez por outro pensonem comprar outro pack da GH pra procurar alguma coisa, mas desisto por saber q ja nao é mais a mesma coisa, marrocos e etc… Essa cruza da Ethos eu não conheço. Vou estudar e ver se de repente entra nos sonhos de compra por aqui… @ervasagrada o que tem de terpenos nessas ai que vc trabalhou?
Se tem uma planta que tenho saudade é a SLH, então se aparecer uma oportunidade vou tnetar achar esse terp novamente! Abraço em todos!

[ervasagrada]

Limão, mousse de limão, muito doce e cítrico

Aqui o seedrun de onde eu ganhei as seeds:

SLH Seed Run! (Closed)

So here’s the thing. I’ve got 7 SLH that I flipped to flower knowing I probably had 2 males, but I have 3 males, with 2 distinct looking phenos. I wasn’t going to, but it seems a waste to not do a seed run and give back. I dont know much about them, I got them from @DougDawson quite some time ago. Maybe last spring, early summer… They are Super Lemon Haze f5 x Super Lemon Haze f5 If there is enough interest, I’ll put my feverish searching for a PS5 aside and go grab an inkbird temp controlle…

fotos das minhas F6:

[MangueBeat]

Então mano… Eu tô levando uma Super Lemon Haze da Green House desde o ano passado e vou dar um breve feedback da exp, fiz apenas 2 colheitas até o momento, levando no orgânico. Tenho um pheno com características tanto do Lemon Skunk como da SSH, planta super cítrica bem puxada pro limão e o cheiro começa cedo, tem um cítrico bem pungente e chega um momento da floração que esse cítrico ganha um toque de “xixi de gato”, às vezes apresenta um cheiro especiado lembrando pimenta preta no caule seco, tipo um cominho, outro dia eu tava bolando um e minha companheira disse que sentiu cheiro de torta de limão exalando da flor, essa semana saquei um bud com uns 40 dias de cura que me lembrou uma bala de limão, a pancada é muito boa e duradoura, parece que com a cura ela fica mais cerebral e o cítrico vai ficando mais refinado também, o baseado na queima tem um cheiro bem diferenciado e que vai longe, delicioso!
Sobre o cultivo assim como vários growers relatam ela é de fato sensível a nitrogênio, fácil gerar toxicidade nela, no mais é rústica pra caramba, fácil de clonar, bem resistente no geral, continua uma excelente planta ao meu ver.
Agora sobre isso de “ser ou não ser a original”, pelo pouco que sei a SLH tem diferentes phenos e cada planta é única, ainda mais se tratando de um poli-híbrido, a própria SSH é uma planta de genética super instável… então normal que a SLH que você cultive hoje não seja a mesma de uns 15 anos atrás, nem as plantas de um mesmo pack serão iguais umas às outras, por mais que possam ter um fundo parecido. E para fins de amostragem franca, sabemos que certos phenos se expressam em uma porcentagem muito baixa, às vezes a pessoa tirou um pheno mais difícil e se baseia nele para reconhecer a strain, neste caso, 1 pack, 2 packs, 3, 4, 5 ou 6 packs que seja não seriam suficientes pra bater o martelo e decretar algo ao meu ver, talvez com um pheno hunt de 10 packs, 20 packs de 5 ou 6 sementes cada… e ainda assim, conhecendo porcentagens, nada seria garantido.
Acho que foi o Notsodog que disse uma vez que as sementes tem dessa coisa, às vezes com um punhado ou apenas uma seed tu tira um pheno incrível, e noutras vezes nem com 2 mil plantas esse pheno sai…

Segue algumas fotos da minha Super Lemon Haze, mantenho sempre ao menos 2 clones dela!

[TEGGY95]

I’ve had SLH only twice first was some middy flower which I was indifferent about, but then I got my hands on some super lemon haze live rosin…my god I’ve been looking for the same profile for years.

As for similar ones, I had this flower from a local grower called Orange crush a while back that was very similar but with orange undertones.

Rarely do I see haze on the east coast, the last time I had any I picked up a QP of amnesia haze circa 2020

[Conor_c]

Used to smoke it all the time sadly that mum’s gone you won’t find it in seed so easily in name sure but what GHS sells today as slh would take alot of seeds to find a good one if yer lucky a better bet would be to find a cross of it (Franco cut)or even harder get a clone of the Franco slh cut from somewhere as far as just " lemon haze" that’s a older cross that’s haze X lemon Thai you can still find good examples of this some places I think I seen madmac had some on his site if I remember right also seedheaven and verdant green both sell lemon Thai as well so that’s still about too hope it helps bud a good lemon skunk isn’t bad either I mean it’s in slh

[liminal_gnome]

I grow the GH SLH but I have had one herm out on me before. Ethos has one that’s Jack Herer x Lemon Skunk, saying that was the original cross…

[gerivast3rpz]

Totally agree about the GHS stuff! They lost their moms, things went downhill after the passing out of Franco. With that in mind, I really appreciate your recommendations, looks like the way will be hunting for SLH’s daughters

Tysm, very enlightening

[Conor_c]

Yeah the older slh crosses are a good shout but don’t overlook lemon Thai imo it’s one of the better lemon lines out there as far as lemon stuff goes kc33 isn’t a bad one either

[ervasagrada]

Ethos SLH is
(Jack Herer x Lemon Skunk) x Super Lemon Haze '08 cut

[MangueBeat]

Hey friend, where did you read or see that they lost their mothers? Or that “things went down the drain” with Franco’s death?

I ask this because I researched the subject and found nothing but a few comments on forums, and God knows where these people got this information from. GHS has a lot of haters, and besides that, sometimes a person buys 1 or 2 packs and doesn’t get the expected pheno and that’s enough for him to say something like that or worse.

Well, I don’t know if this makes any sense to you, but I’m a nobody, I’ve always had a low income, I’ve been growing for 20 years and to this day I haven’t had the money to buy even the simplest quantum board and I grow in a country where I can be arrested for this, and even so, I can easily maintain my mothers and clones, so surely a multimillion-dollar company with production farms in several countries operating in the market for 40 years with a ton of employees can also do the same. Right?

I rescued a comment from 2010 from another forum to remind people that SLH is a polyhybrid with many different phenotypes, so it’s normal for your plant to be different from the ones you’ve grown in the past.

I have a SLH from Green House here from 2024, last year, fresh seed, and it matches the description of the line very well, the effect and terps don’t deny it either, in fact, reading reports from growers in the year the strain was released I realize that my pheno fits their description too. Like the sensitivity to nitrogen, the slower growth compared to other strains, the flowering time, the fact that it becomes more cerebral as it cures, a bit of a creeper effect, I even have a bit of forgetfulness with it, and the smell doesn’t deny the parents too, everything matches! I see reports from 2010 of people describing the same plant that I am growing today. Which leads me to believe that those who say that SLH “no longer exists” germinated few seeds or were very unlucky with phenotypes.

[nick131740]

Got any pics? Well fwiw ive found greenhouse to be extremely hit and miss these days. Ive ran alot of their catalogue over the years. They have progressively gone down hill in quality from 07 to my last grow in 22. Of course this is just my opinion. But ive also found some absolute top shelf plants in a couple things like hawaiian snow, ssh, and trainwreck.

With all that said id try the ethos version, theyve put alot of work into that ibl plus theres other variants they offer. All reports have been impressive

[Headies12green]

I’m running some super lemon Haze hybrids from Cali…both have those trademark narrow leaves. Crossed with wedding cake so we’ll see how they flower. Yeah I’ve heard ethos has a very solid SLH

[MangueBeat]

There are some photos of my plant in this same topic, above.

[nick131740]

i got ya i skipped over it bc i couldnt read it. Thats funny but great looking plant i can see why you like it so much.

[Conor_c]

The sweet lemonade sweets/candy pheno with a touch of haze at the back end(the one you want) was definitely more common back in 2010 2011 tbh you proly have a better bet with there lemon cheese nowadays mind you there morals leave alot to be desired

[MangueBeat]

Many people who grow SLH report this sweet lemon smell, and even today there are reviews like this on grow diaries and other forums.
It’s funny this thing about phenos and people’s preferences, because I have tried 2 different phenos in the past, one was sweeter and one was more citrus/sour smell, and I particularly liked it in the past and I still like the sour one better.
Mine SLH has a sharp sour citrus mixed with a hint of cat pee or something similar to ammonia, and I notice a bit of pine too. The smell is very pungent.
When cured the citrus becomes more refined and reminds me of a lemon candy, not the sweet ones, but the sour, acidic ones. My girlfriend smells lemon tart in the cured buds and she can taste a little bit of sweetness that I can’t. For me it’s pure lemon, sharp and acidic, punching you in the face with its pungency. And speaking of lemon, it’s not exactly a perfect lemon as in the fresh fruit, but if I were to associate it with something, it would certainly be lemon and not any other citrus. I don’t know how to explain it well.
Another interesting thing, at least my SLH has a smell of black pepper/cumin or something like that in the stem, it reminds me of a spice.

[Conor_c]

Ime the newer seeds of slh come out more like the old lemon haze or some type of amnesia in taste/smell Vs the old slh I remember that was a clean lemonade sweets smell and taste most lemon strains don’t taste clean lemon it’s lemon Herby that seems to be the most common profile I found in most lemon stuff over the years