What could this be ??

I have been watering my plants at 6.3-6.5 PH with no nutrients, since i had a lockout but it’s been a good 2-3 weeks, should i still just ride it out with just water or should i do something else ?

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If those are lower leaves I think they are hungry.

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They are kinda all over my plant lower, middle, and but mostly in the middle of the plant

If you have a lockout you would water with ph water of 6.3-6.5 (in peat) until the runoff is almost the same as the input pH, also the runoff EC should not be higher than 0.3 EC than your input EC. When you got to this point you just water them one last time with 25 or 50% of the nutrients you normally feed, this will give them some food, else they will eat themselves because you flushed every nutrient out of the medium. Then just let it dry, next watering you feed again and check your runoff to make sure it’s going into the right direction. I like to have minimum of 20% drain of the input volume, this will usually wash out all the salts the plant didn’t process or needed. Drain is going to waste.

Here’s one of the plants, this is the worst one out of the 4, I have flushed it and made sure the PH is correct and i gave it some light nutes after flush and letting it dry. Should i feed it some nutes again?

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Looks like wet roots to me, check out GWE website. Tons of info for those who are curious.

Good luck! Sick plants are disheartening.

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I would trim all bad looking leaves, they are stealing energy from the plant, that would also promote new healthy growth (if roots are not damaged), nutes are fine now … beer3|nullxnull

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When I see a situation like that I just transplant into a new pot with new soil mix with added ewc (so I can just water without anything that can fuck it up on my part like overfeeding or something)
Cut the roots back 1/3 on all sides, cut the sick branches and leaves and just tap water for 2 weeks with as perfect environment as possible

Should bounce back like beasts

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The soil i would be using would be Fox Farms Happy Frog, So i just transplant the plant into some new soil?

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Yeah take it out nicely, cut 30% from the bottom and shave the sides aswell,
Add some ewc or any other slow release amendment to your soil mix so you won’t have to mess with it or fuck it up with inputs
PH tap water and consistent environment, watering/drying cycles, in short give it some tlc for a while

Yes this was on my mind too… leaves dropping like overwatered plus those irregular yellow & brown spots i only had them when the roots were too long wet without proper dryback to get oxygen to the roots.

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ah @Frankken_Ford got a good point about this

def rootzone issue.
and it can be fusarium or other microbes that are fcking it up.

Dont recommend removing leaves that aren’t crispy atm. Crispy ones you can remove for sure. Cuz plants looked unhealthy and removing alot of alive tissues at this point can easily kill your plant within 24 hrs.

TLDR

  1. if its microbes like fusarium or white molds causing this problem…then just start a new grow. No hope in that case.
  2. if its just problem with watering such as over or underwater, you def have hope.

p.s.

  • How to know whats the problem?
    Woah you cant, without lab analysis but if its fusarium, your plants will die soon so you’ll know by that. If its white mold, you’ll see mold building up on dead tissues soon like a week or two.

If non of above are case then highly likely watering problem.

Anyway, you can check out root if all your roots are yellow/brown or if theres some nice white color roots.
and you can check if your soil is quite damp like some excessive water comes out from soil easily or dried af!

Aim for 5.7-6.3

6.3 is the max i’ll go as above starts pushing elements into lockout.

And as @ReikoX would suggest you will probably additionally want to apply LITFA.

:v:

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Had something very similar about 10 days ago. My situation was a little different though. I was trying different sized container (5" square) than I typically do, and my feed/watering schedule was way off, and i was using recycled soil. Really beat em up. Ive seen this before when i used re-used soil too.

I was able to up pot into a fresh soil mix and containers that im very familiar with. Then clipped all the damaged leaves. There comming back nicely.

After 2-3 weeks of no food they’re probably hungry? Not sure your soil mix/additives though. I would give a slow and even veg feed to slight runoff, kind of a flush/replace. Then let to go dry before resuming your schedule. I would trim the damaged leaves. They may still look kinda ugly for a few days but these things are resilient.

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yeah . my first impression would be you are watering too much. you probably have root rot in that pot …

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Many great responses here from OG members. I can also suggest that it might help to get plants back on track by lowering the light intensity. Then slowly raising it every 36-48 hours or so. My plants are showing they appreciate it by ‘praying’ with their leaves :pray:

Its really not time to worry about nutrient recipe🙃

like @jonathan77 said, its time to worry about your rootzone environment regardling water and microbes

you may have ph and nutrients problem but surely thats not what make your plants to lose more than 50% of potential productivity…

Many already have different advices to you and in the end you have to choose
but checkout smth thats more critical then check out smth thats less critical!

anyway, youll have to check both rootzone and nutrient recipe if it doesnt get better in the first shot!

Thank you a lot everyone!

I haven’t fed it nutes in about 2 weeks as it’s still burning but i did lower my PH and I had my lights to low i adjusted those the other day and now just waiting a few days to see any changes

When is the best time to trim off bad leaves? Right as you see yellowing or once they are crispy?

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I let mine go until they are crispy, allow the plant to get everything out of them that can be gotten.

have never checked PH in all my years - I see were it can cause some plant issues --BUT have never had any ---- consider letting plants dry (about 3 days then feed wirth h2o. Never heard of “Litfa” before Then re-adjust nutrient use by 1/2. don’t worry your head about PH.OH happens when there is a nutrient overload that is caused by the grower by feeding to many nutrients at high levels and feed ing everyday. Hope this helps ? who make :Litfa ?

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