What size is your 1 gallon pot really?

The title might sound ridiculous, but I recently discovered that all 1 gallon pots are not created equally. In fact, there is not even an industry standard for how big a 1 gallon pot MUST be!
Shortcut to the end : Most pots advertised as 1 gallon are about 75% of that volume.

The story:
The other day I opened a package of 1 gallon pots from Amazon in order to up-pot some plants from solo cups. I measured and mixed my soil and amendments for X amount of pots, but when I was done up-potting I still had lots of soil left over. I wrote it off as being late at night and after having a smoke I had likely made a mistake measuring. However, the next day I was on another project and was left with excess soil again! I could accept making a mistake once, but the same mistake again the very next day? I needed to do some digging.

There are some very handy calculators online that will calculate the volume of a tapered pot, so I used those to start my investigation. I searched around online for various suppliers to compare different 1 gallon pots and found that most were only approximately 75% of 1 gallon.
I further discovered that the pots I had received from Amazon were actually only half a gallon by volume, even though they were advertised as 1 gallon. Additionally the measurements given on the Amazon site were not accurate and all dimensions had been exaggerated!

Now, this is not a rant about Amazon and their false advertising and fake reviews (over 4.5k positive reviews and no one noticed they got half of what they paid for?!?! Unlikely!).
Also, my research revealed that most people in the “industry” (gardening centres and landscapers mainly) are fully aware of this discrepancy as it has something to do with measuring when the plants are being planted in the ground.

That said, I believe these discrepancies are relevant to us because pot size can greatly affect performance of a plant, depending on the plant size. There will potentially be issues with feeding and mixing nutrients if you assume you have 1 gallon of medium but only actually have 50-75% of that volume. In that case, your soil will be nutrient rich or “hot”, which could cause issues growing. You would also have more frequent waterings than expected as the medium would dry out more quickly.
Additionally, if you are attempting to compete with other growers or do comparison grows, or simply imitate someone else’s grow style, your results will not be an accurate reflection of the plant’s abilities, or your abilities as a grower if you are unknowingly using different size pots.

My personal issue was this: I wanted to flower out some small plants in 1 gallon pots but did not realize my pots were only half gallon in reality. I have every confidence the small plants would’ve finished in one gallon pots, but zero confidence that they could have finished properly in half gallon pots.That definitely would have led to root bound issues which would have reduced yields and quality of the finished product.

I was finally able to source some 1 gallon pots (industry standard so technically only 3/4 of a gallon :face_with_spiral_eyes:) but the plants have grown a little bigger and I have to put them through another transplant, so not ideal but oh well.

Ultimately my soil was not hot as I had measured it out using my 5 gallon buckets, which are true 5 gallons. The nutrients were measured with measuring cups and spoons, so the concentration of the soil was ultimately correct, there was just more than the half gallon pots could hold. The soil would have been hot if I had been mixing individual pots or if I had been using those pots to measure it out.

Moving forward, assume that 1 gallon means 3/4 of a gallon when it comes to plant pots and calculate your amendments and watering schedules accordingly.:saluting_face:

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It’s normal. 1 gallon in horticultural pots is actually 1 trade gallon, a different unit of measurement.

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Great post. Welcome to OG! @SpliffyTwoJoints

Have a great one :green_heart:

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The problem is, there are 3 different “gallon” units of measurement (US gallon, Imperial gallon, and Trade gallon), with that mysterious and convenient third one, which is what the horticulture industry uses, because it’s easier to reason about for their use-case. A trade gallon is only 75% of the volume of a true US gallon, and a US gallon is 20% of the volume of an Imperial gallon.

Depending on what conversion gallon a trade gallon is derived from, determines how much less of a “true” gallon it actually is. There’s more to it than this, since the volume of increasing gallon pot sizes is not linear.

It’s sort of like how a 2x4 is not actually 2in x 4in. Or how a pound of coffee isn’t 1lb.

In horticulture, it mostly originated from how much volume a cubic foot of soil fills. Typically 1 cubic foot of soil requires 10 trade gallons.

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Just to add to the confusion, the US has a liquid gallon (231 cubic inches) and a dry gallon (approximately 269 cubic inches). :upside_down_face:

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Insert obligatory metric fist waver here.

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I have tested the cheap amazon pots. Heres my results.
Round pots
6" = 1l
7" = 2l
8" = 3l, and what i would consider the industry standard for 1 gallon pots, or #1’s
9.5" = 6l
11.5" = 12l

For sog planting for pheno hunting I use these standards per 4x4 space.
6" pots, 36 to 49 plants
7" pots 25 plants
8" pots 16 plants
9.5" pots 9 plants
11.5" pots 4 plants

These standards are designed so that the plants dry out daily and need an irrigation system to keep them evenly watered.

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Might be some confusion between a #1 and a one gallon pot.

#1 is .78 gallon
1 gallon is… 1 gallon

Source: I have and use both

Peace out :v:

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This is no different than The lumber industries 2” x 4” lol as I recall, they lost the class action lawsuit and had to change labeling, but that took like 60 years or more lol. Cheers !!!

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Nominal vs actual

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If only it were that simple :sweat_smile:
#1 is a pot size designated by the ANSI American Nursery Stock specification, which is specified to be a range, not a hard figure. 152-251 inches cubed for #1 to be exact. Which means anywhere from about 0.7gal to 1.1gal.

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The lumber industry claimed the 2 x 4 dimension was used because if you added drywall it was 2” x 4” … they forgot to mention you had buy the drywall separate and lost that case lol. Cheers

Edit- https://www.jlconline.com/business/lowes-1-6m-settlement-lists-2x4-labeling-requirements_o

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Sorry, I’m not familiar with the lumber industry and I took that from the Wikipedia entry, which states a 2x4 is still 1.5x3.5:

If you are an editor, please update that :slight_smile:

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Nursery containers are often smaller than their stated size because they use a system called “trade gallons,” which means the listed size represents the approximate volume of soil the pot can hold, not the actual volume of the container itself, leading to a smaller actual capacity than what the label might suggest; this practice helps with efficiency in production and transportation, allowing nurseries to fit more plants in a smaller space.

Key points about nursery container sizing:

  • Not true gallons:

A “gallon” pot at a nursery doesn’t actually hold a full gallon of water due to the “trade gallon” system.

  • Container numbering:

Nurseries often use a numbering system to indicate pot size, where a higher number means a larger pot.

  • Plant maturity:

Smaller containers typically indicate younger, less mature plants, while larger containers represent more established plants.

  • Cost and space efficiency:

Smaller containers allow nurseries to produce and transport more plants in a smaller space, which can be more cost-effective.

https://www.google.com/search?q=why+are+nursery+container+smaller+than+stated&rlz=1CALDHH_enUS1135&oq=&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgBECMYJxjqAjIJCAAQIxgnGOoCMgkIARAjGCcY6gIyCQgCECMYJxjqAjIJCAMQIxgnGOoCMgkIBBAuGCcY6gIyCQgFEC4YJxjqAjIJCAYQIxgnGOoCMgkIBxAjGCcY6gLSAQkxNDYwajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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I have the 1-gallon pots, and they are roughly 3/4 of a gallon give or take.

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Having worked in the industry for many years I can attest to this being pretty accurate. The only caveat is that an 8" pot typically refers to a short pot like the ones mums are grown in. While a #1 (1gal) is also 8" but it’s deeper. So if you shop 8" pots you will likely get a short pot not a 1 gallon.

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Did you know that a US liquid gallon is the equivalent to (on average) 14 jellyfish.
And that a US dry gallon (on average) is equivalent to 16 unripe bananas.

:+1:

(:rofl:)

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WOW! Is that correct? One single Imperial gallon is the equivalent of five US gallons?!?!? That’s amazing!

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I was braindead when I worded that. 1 Imperial gallon is about 1.2 US gallons. 20% more. Technically about 1.201 but whatever.

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