When does veg start?

Title. How do you decide that you’re out of the seedling stage and into veg? I’m sure everyone has different answers, and I’m eager to hear them, because I don’t have an answer myself. :rofl:

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First “true set” of leaves, first day above ground, when it reaches the edge of a solo cup…
Everyone’s gonna say something different.
:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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That’s the idea. :wink:

I’d like to see what everyone has to say, and what their reasoning is.

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Three nodes sounds pretty good to me. I’ve also heard veg starts when the first set of 5-pointed leaves pops out. :man_shrugging:

Another related question, which is more of an actual question where I’m looking for a definitive answer: when should I start nutes? I grow organic, so nutes naturally start when the first transplant happens, but how do you decide when to do that?

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This, I might actually be able to help with.
If it’s growing organic, what type of amendments do you use?

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Dr. Earth, the green one for vegetables.

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What soil are you using? It will likely carry you for a at least a little while.

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I make my own blend, no added nutrients. 1:1:2 ratio of perlite:compost/castings:peat.

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Ah, yeah, you’ll def need some nutes. Id def have to defer to others on that then. I cant speak to organics.

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Seven sets of pointed leaves is the standard i believe.

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Gotcha. I see soil in your thread; are you using salt nutes in soil?

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I’ve seen that as well. So I guess that would be 7 nodes.

I did soil last run. Im running coco/perlite this one. Yeah, I use salts (GH Maxi grow and Maxi bloom).

I started my last soil run with Masterblend, its basically like Jacks 321, but was having probs with it, so switched to the GH and plants were much happier.

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Can you speak on what type problems. I use the MB 4-18-38 and epsom and castings some times. Im not using the cal-nit and sometimes get some wonky lowers because of that i think.

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I was getting purple woody stems, and leaves were having probs.

Im not even sure if MB was the problem, could’ve be user error in my part, but as soon as I switched, they turned around. I was following recipe, even weighing it. IDK. Here are pics of what it doing. They got worse than pics show, but it basic idea of what they were doing.


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That looks just like what happens to mine when I overwater. :thinking:

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I suspect mine was too much P or K, or some other micro nute, so I was getting lock out.

But not sure. Just know switching nutes cleared it up.

@Hashpants Yeah, Ive read of others having good grows not using the Cal/Nit too, so its possible that the C/N was causing the problem.

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@This1guy
Looks like a calcium deficiency to me.
They’re rust spots which i usually get through a calcium deficiency.

Dont forget to up you magnesium too if you hit them with calcium…as they should be in a ratio of 3:1 (cal/mag) to each other.

GH salts…could you do me a favor and read what’s in it as a source of N please? I get a feelings it’s urea. And i wouldn’t even like that on my lawns. Like that other cheap line greenplanet…stay away from it. It’s cheap rubbish

@Hashpants
Are you adding any calcium at all? If not I’d use a bit of that calnit together with magnesium, but row back on the castings for a while as it has quite a bit of N in it.

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@stiffy

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Thanks, that’s the bloom…how about the grow. The Bloom sounds fine.
Very much what I use too…Just a sightly different mix ratio
I suspected the urea in the growth part.

Like I said I might be remembering it wrong.
Greenplanet certainly has it in theirs. Stay away from that stuff

I might try the GH myself if you could take a pic of the other bag for us