When to give up?

I have these two girls that I over watered, I’ve fixed that. But these two have been droopy/stunted for a couple of weeks.

They are in an organic soil that I mixed my self, that I had great initial growth with until the over watering.

Sour diesel before latest water,


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After water
Sour diesel,


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I worried that these plants will not produce the best quality and yield. Are they worth keeping or should I start over.

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I would keep them just dont flip to flower until they look more healthy but thats just me cheers.

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They are tortured the fuck (please stop lol) but nothing that a month of LITFA in veg can’t fix.

The food is bad, i don’t know what you have blended but it’s looking like one of those salts for decorative plants for big buildings.

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Give them more veg time. They’ll come around.

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Never give up ! All you need is faith. The Universe will provide.
:v: :smiley: :+1:

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Looks like your soil may be a little hot in nitrogen here, as the leaves are looking super dark army green with that clawing pattern.

If you can, you could always take them out of soil, make a fresh batch with a lighter application of your organic nutes and replant them, giving them a slight water.

Just also wanted to check with the experienced growers here, but how does this sound for a suggestion? :thinking:

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I was thinking the same, adding some aeration as well.

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Good call on that! :+1::+1::+1:

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Definitely too much nitrogen. It’s blocking the potassium.

That fading around the bottom leaf perimeter is a sign of potassium deficiency.

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I would transplant immediately into a proper medium with proven success. Root balls don’t like to be exposed without a lag and turn around period so you could basically keep the soil close to the rootball and put that into a proper medium. Within a couple weeks, you should see a drastic turnaround. Some great advice going here Cheers everyone!!!

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The soil is way too hot. You can either let it run slow for a couple of weeks and let it use up the food or transplant with better soil and save time.

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Are you checking the pH of your water/nutes?

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This is the mix I used. They have gotten nothing but RO water.

six cuft of a mixture of 1/3rd each of Peet, vemricompost and Pumice.

2cup Neem
2cup Kelp
2Crab meal
1 cup MBP (Malted Barley Powder)
1cup Gypsum
1 Lbs Biochar
One lbs Azomite
One lbs Oyster Shell Powder

I started with 1/3 of this mix and two of sunshine #4 in solo cup, 2/3rd of mix and 1/3rd sunshine in 1 gallon pot and full strength in 7 gallon grow bags.

I had over watered when they were in 1 gallon and up potted to 7 gallon to over come the over watering. And then my dumbass over watered when transplanting, I pre-saturated the soil, transplanted and watered the top layer. This is when things took a turn, I kept checking the the weight of the pots and they were heavy so I didnt water. After a week or so with the pots still heavy I took them out side to help them dry up a bit and this is when they took a shit on me. I brought them in, reduced my lights intensity and waited for another week.

At this point, I decided to check soil PH(5.9 and 6.0), I dug down to the bottom three inches and the soil was bone dry in both pots. So I watered them again and they started to look better.

Can EC/PPM be checked in living soil? If so those numbers were 1050ppm and 850ppm.

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I’ve flowered worse looking plants. Usually they self correct in the stretch. You’ll be fine and I’ve seen a lot worse. Also, every opportunity is a chance to learn and I bet you won’t do the same thing on your next run.

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It also sounds like you have anaerobic pockets. You might want to use a saucer on the bottom and add in some microbes. EM is always a good one to use to help with the hydrophobic soil. Also, if you have the time check out the episode of Shaping Fire with Leighton Morrison about horizonal soil. It is an absolute game changer.

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I agree with @DanOg. There may be dry pockets in the medium.

Did you cook the soil long enough before using it?

You may need to use a wetting agent if there are dry spots. Alternatively, you should water the pot very slowly, over a period of time, say 15 to 30 mins. Dumping a lot of water at once will not saturate the pot evenly. You can also try bottom watering.

Do not change the environment of the plant abruptly. Bringing it out and in will stress it. You need to introduce it to a new environment gradually, increasing 1 hour every day.

I’m not sure about peat moss, but I aim for 6.3 - 6.5 pH in soil (coco mix)

I don’t worry about ppm and ec for my soil grow. I pH my off gassed tap water and water the plants.

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If I were you, I’d LITFA for a couple of weeks and just feed them pH’d water till they show signs for more food. They should recover well.

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Nitrogen talk should just feed pH water for at least a couple weeks. Leave them alone they’ll turn around.

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Oops, sorry

If you have dry pockets of soil, bottom water with one drop of plain dish soap. One time should help.

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