Not an expert, but autos is also what I started with. Doing a photo regular seed run next, but want to try some outdoor auto plants next year. Started with a reversal to make fem auto seeds for outdoor ‘22. Almost ready to chop and see if it worked!
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When I did the black creams here, I started fem seeds for reversal 3 weeks before I planned to start the fem seeds for seed. Ended up saving pollen as my male showed nice and early, and plentiful, then brushing on my ladies. CANT stress enough, if you plan to save pollen, ya GOTTA dry it. I used mine over the course of several weeks, keeping it in a humidor at 30% RH and 54F. Everything I dusted made seeds, and stuff I didnt dust (main colas) still made seeds.
Its not hard to make them, its harder to control that pollen when its airborne… But thats just more seeds, and I’ll still smoke the bud in one form or another 
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I find it best to have the pollen already made before the females are ready. It will keep in the fridge just fine.
I then like to use trash bags to cover the plant where I don’t plan on making seeds.
Paint brush or a little tap on the pollen container above the isolated branch. This will really decrease the likelihood of stray pollen.
Also i don’t recommend brushing pollen on plants in the same area as your grow. Right! Brush one plant at a time.
When I’m doing several crosses on one female, I do the different crosses a few days apart
I don’t use seed that aren’t on the specific areas that I brushed with pollen. I put the random seeds in a different piles and label as such. Sometimes I’ll throw a few in the bottom of established pots to see how the germ.
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I label those with a question mark. Kinda don’t mind growing them out myself, I do know that the parents are good plants, just not which 
I have a few chunky autos with ? labels, make it a game trying to identify mom and dad (I toss them ALL in the same little jar, so I have no clue who either parent is). I think it helps you be in tune to your plants traits as well, as you will be intimately more familiar with growth patterns, etc…
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For sure. Always label, you have the mom.
Once you smoke it, the dad will be more obvious.
I keep those seeds labeled by the mom for sure. I have never seen one that didn’t turn out as good as the breeding suggested.
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I probably should, but always seem to see a seed somewhere it shouldn’t be, pluck it and leave it on the work table. A few days go by and as I am cleaning up I find it and can’t remember LOL. Anything plucked for seed after being cut gets labeled, but my mystery seeds are pulled before I cut, if ya follow me,
Right now there’s very few possible combos here, but you are right, the parents become more obvious, even before you smoke it I think. Between height, branching and color, its kinda easy to guess at the lineage of my mystery ladies 
Once ya smoke it, you have even more evidence to draw on to figure out the parents. 
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Yeah I also told a lady the same thing. Once she get started breeding, she will learn how to recognize and pick out the different phenos.
For real, making seeds is the easy part. What a breeder is making is what matters. Same ole??? Or something that stands out as different or better in some way??
But then we all have different interpretations as to what’s good is.
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I figured out the root problem of that last week… People are SO used to getting the same old same old, mass-grown mids, with different names each time. SO, to them, “all weed tastes the same” and possibly “looks the same”.
Had a friend stop in last week telling me that they taste the same… Then I smoked with him, 4 bowls, 4 different strains, 4 TOTALLY different colors, 4 tastes. You would have thought this was the first time in his life he’s smoked (been a smoker some 20 years). Sent him home with nugs of each, told him to smoke them on different days and you’ll see the different effects of each as well
I think alot of people also think that “well, this is Lemon Haze, so all seeds will be as well”. And while technically its true, what they don’t think about most times is different phenos, and how from one seed run you CAN have a variety of tastes, effects, growth, etc… Then they get disappointed when their seeds aren’t as “lemony”, because they didn’t breed, they merely pollenated, and like I said, many don’t realize there’s extra steps to breeding
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That’s so for real.
I like to tell them to “have something worth breeding.”
And you don’t get what I’m talking about by buying seed packs and crossing pollen.
You build it from top to bottom by using those seeds that you got hands on.
For real, They can buy all the packs, or crosses that they want. But they are still going to have to breed it into something worth growing repeatedly.
Everybody is making seeds. Tell me what will make me choose their seed over anyone else’s.
I can look at what they are crossing, then read what they are personally saying about it. I already know what others are saying about it.
Then I take it a step further by seeing what this grower/breeder prefers to smoke. That gives me an idea about his tolerance. If he is already smoking something that I know as weak, then he he says something similar is good… I already know that’s not what I’m looking for because he is just putting out more of the same. I walk by him. Show me something. Better yields, better tastes, better bag appeal, potency… you know. If i can’t get something better, i keep my money in my pockets.
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Oh congrats!!! That’s a fat sack o’ beans!
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Congrats! Very nice!
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no doubt you hit the target! 
congratulations to you my friend 
i’ve started my first breed experiment yesterday… who wants to follow it, i will document it on First time doing mating dance with plants
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way to go @ElMasSabroso a variety very much worth preserving and a job well done by the looks of it. you deserve a big fat joint for your efforts my friend!
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I’ll call it a success as I got what I wanted, seeds. Definitely need to step up my game to get the numbers you guys are pulling 
GDP x PPP
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That’s more than enough to find some keepers.
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Yeah that was to goal so mission accomplished
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Great job man. It ain’t no bad haul. I bet there’s 500 there. That’s 500 you don’t have to pay for!
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Good job man, that’s a nice pile of seeds.
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Appreciate the kind words from you and @corey
This was my first tent grow and wasn’t sure what to expect. 2 gal pots was a first and a last, plants were way small. Seeing as how I have to clean the tent anyways, probably skip the qtip dabbing and do more of an open pollination on the next run.
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