This is like asking why so much soda and not juice? Or why do so many people like a TV show.
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There absolutely is a reason. It is completely impossible to recreate the potential genetic diversity of crossing a male and female from distinct lineages with s1s. Particularly when open pollination is at play, which it often is during pheno hunts. The more you self, cross, re-self etc, the more you bottleneck the diversity out of the gene pool. We aren’t all looking for reproducibility and consistency. Innovation in cannabis comes from allowing the widest possible genetic spectrum provide us with brand new expressions. Once those discoveries have been made the process of refining can begin.
Don’t get me wrong, one of my favorite moms came from a feminized seed. I don’t hate fems. But to say that there is nothing a male can offer that an s1 can’t is shortsighted and genetically inaccurate.
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I think those examples are based on someone’s tastes.
Fems and regs have very different functions.
The reason I posted the question was that in my limited, noob understanding, I assumed that most people would be looking to produce bud for consumption.
The charity auction that went up had many dozens of lots, and 99% were reg seeds, which surprised me a bit, so I just sought to understand why.
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I get it now, make far more sense ^^
I personally smoke and eat my males, i just prepare my body for it.
So yeah, i disagree on judging males but it’s methodologic and not fundamental.
Got it, make more sense too ^^
I read often people mixing as hell homozygosity, dominance and the “breed true” concept (Vic High tinted i guess). At least for the two first concepts, they have nothing in common technically.
It’s like hunting the term “poly-hybridism” used to critic the reverse : the lack of stabilization of these shit tons of perpetual F1s.
It can make a lot of blur in discussions sometimes ^^
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My point wasn’t that you poised a stupid question, it was that it is a preference/taste thing. And I wouldn’t say the function is too drastically different when often the goals and markers of success are very similar in both persuits.
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I mean… you’re on a cannabis breeding forum primarily filled by people over the age of 35. Most of us don’t breed or work with fems as they didn’t exist until recently and have our own qualms about it. Some do for sure, but this isn’t reddit filled with genZers who don’t know what good weed is 
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I never said that, and, as ive just pointed out, S1s are just one aspect of feminised breeding. You coould open polliniate a massive bunch of reversed females if you wanted… and what’s more you could easily make sure all of the females you reversed had great terps and potency.
I grow fems, I grow regs, I am glad I missed the shit show, lol.
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people seem sensitive here. Ive just tried to make a point that i believe is true… and i don’t think i’ve been rude or argumentative in doing so.
I also grow fems and regs, and make fem and reg seeds.
VG
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I think fem breeding is, at least partially on one-side, a matter of straight laziness and a lack of confidence in male selection. The other side i see of this extreme is, locking down genetics so no one else can have it, monetary reasons. Both of these extremes automatically make me want to avoid fems. Not even getting into having to STS them to continue the line, or forced to outcross. If I pop a pack of fems, I’m not expecting to keep anything from it.
As-is, it seems much easier to grow out some girls and pick the favorites and hit them with STS, than it does to pick out a good male and spend some time with him. You can easily find out what resin and cannabinoids he has and passes just like the females, just need to take the time.
Most don’t seem to want to do that, or are seemingly afraid of it, or something. The other half just uses any male or all of the males 
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Those sound great! 
While there was some hostility on this thread, I also agree as purely only a bud grower, that growing a full plant only to throw away possibly more than half for the same amount of growing effort gets truly old, and God forbid I miss one of the males and gets no fem plants.
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Not had to deal with many herms huh? I’ve grown out a bunch of packs where every single plant hermed. try spending two months to throw the whole pack in the trash 
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There’s us, by that I mean OG, and there’s the general consumer. We have different needs and goals.
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And you’d still be bottlenecking the genetic diversity.
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I’m with @VerdantGreen on this one and I’ve already argumented about it in the “Breeding potent cannabis”-thread.
But I’m soooo aware that it’s a hassle deluxe with STS or CS. If you want to reproduce a pack to keep it, males are sooo much easier to deal with.
And I have to say that there is some truth to that S1s(specifically S1s) will have a higher chance for herms if the parent used have the genes for it. This is due to the alleles aligning, thus making the hermaphrodism traits to pop out. This could happen with male, but since the alleles are not a copy of each other. There is atleast a chance to continue to suppress the hermie trait.
Pz 
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I don’t think so either, and I’m sure I’m not the only one 
You’re probably a bit caricatural here, I think the market is also pushing breeders to release fems. It’s not laziness, it’s just that if you want to exist in this market, you have to have a fem offer or you don’t exist for 99% of the consumers (ok, maybe a bit less, now I am caricatural 
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Fair enough 
The market IS clamoring for it, I get it.
But the market is dumb. Just look at cookies fame
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My sister, a noob, asked me what she should grow.
I told her auto fems because that was her highest chance for success without too much research/diving too deep.
I tend not to grow them, but for her it was the right choice.
I might have chosen differently had I been around to guide/help. But I wasn’t and just said auto fems.
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This is interesting although from more of a proper farming perspective. Raises some good points.
“Hermaphrodites in Feminized Seed—Is it a Problem?
Cannabis has an XX/XY chromosomal sex determining system, which is rare in the plant
world9
. True female plants (XX) can be easily and rapidly identified using qPCR
techniques10 for use in feminized breeding projects; when true females are combined for
seed production, the resulting progeny are 100% female. The major concern of most
farmers regarding feminized seed stems from the belief that rates of hermaphrodites—i.e.
plants with both male and female reproductive organs—will increase. This is simply
false when proper breeding techniques are used, though we must distinguish between
hermaphrodites (genetically determined intersex plant) and hermaphroditism—the former
can be selectively removed from gene pools while the latter is a condition that can affect
any female plant when stressed. All things being equal, the rate of hermaphroditism
appearing in a field of plants is the same with regular seed, feminized seed, or clones.
The exponential increase in Oregon Cannabis farm size in the past two years has allowed
us to collect the data necessary to demonstrate this point.”
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I see that a lot and I find it a bit crazy. Start the newbie with a plant that’s on a timeline. Mess it up at all and you’re gonna get bap and/or tiny yield. Do it right and sure, can get a winner. But the forced timeline of the plant makes it a bit difficult.
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