"Yes, I really do need all these plants." 🤣 Autoflowers, photoperiods, bugs, breeding (journal)

I got two Indian sativa’s which you could explore for that project.

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Glad you are back @RainToday.:v::grin::+1:

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I always tell people that it’s only so beautiful and green in rainy countries because of that rain, water is life but I agree it can be difficult to think like that after months of rain.

Great ideas on the beldia, I was hoping for something like this and I am very interested in that project. I will be doing some similar work if all goes well. Pure sativa Autoflowers and probably some sativa/indica without the ruderalis.

Looks like you already have a lot going on, very interesting!

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I read through your whole grow log. Sorry to hear about your mom’s health, I hope the study has gotten easier on her and is helping!

I concur with the folks fascinated by a completely different growing style to their own. I think the biggest similarity to my own is “they’re both weed.” :joy: Your breeding adventures are fascinating, and you are far better at keeping track of all of that than I would be.

I can relate to the electrical issues, it’s a big reason I never tried to grow at my old house. We had 3 almost-fires, down to the panel smoking one time, all due to the electrical. That has to be a relief to have it resolved.

@Ace71975 we were discussing how you could test and also seed autos, she’s got a pretty solid method here (leaving some lowers and letting them grow new pistils).

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Fungus gnats are a pain but not so hard to get rid of really. One tip I share when growing in plastic pots is to find some material like panty hose. Put a small layer at the bottom so it covers the drain holes and put your medium on top of that. That’s one main entry point taken away from them. Mosquito bits sprinkled on the surface and scratched in and wetted, and finally sticky sheets. Oh, and a fan blowing across the tops of the pots.

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Whoops I just posted here instead of my journal. LOL so sorry!

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Waiting for seedlings to emerge is so nerve-wracking! :exploding_head::rofl: Nothing yet, but that was only 2 days ago, so tomorrow is really the earliest I ought to see any.

Thanks @Magu :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Thanks @globalhead ! I’ve got a few kinds of sativa landraces now. Really it’s already more than I can get to soon. :green_heart:

My giant pumkins have done well. Turns out there were 4 vines, and three of them managed to make pumpkins. Fascinatingly, they self-thinned their fruit to one pumpkin per vine :open_mouth:
It also occurred to me that since I didn’t push their growth anywhere near their theoretical thousand pound potential, maybe they’ll actually taste decent rather than the watery flesh mentioned by others. So I’ll taste them next month for sure. I love pumpkin. :smile:

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Those are awesome. Is the one your right hand is on a different variety of pumpkin then the one your left hand is on?

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Those are amazing pumpkins!! Absolutely stunning!!

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Same kind :slight_smile: they’re both Atlantic Giant, that variety has high variation in color and shape. I’ve seen pale pinkish ones also.

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I was reading about them after seeing your photos. The article said you’re supposed to rotate them carefully so they mature evenly all around. Not sure I’m strong enough yet to be rolling hundred pound pumpkins around. :smile:

My pups love pumpkin and I love pumpkin pie.

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Yeah, there’s all sorts of stuff you’re meant to do to them, :laughing: I mostly just let them grow this time, and they got plenty big enough to make me happy. I’m really enjoying the one perched on the edge of the garden, which is developing a bulge where it hangs over the edge.

Did you know the “pumpkin” flavor we are all familiar with in pie is a very different squash? I want to grow that one too :grin:

My first seedlings are up! :heart_eyes:


And there’s been a population explosion of beneficial mites and a return of springtails. So delightful to watch them zooming around the macro world :heart_eyes:

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That’s a massive pumpkin!! Nicely done!!

Also, good to see ya back :blush::ok_hand:

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Things are cooking now!
Here’s a photo dump of all the little babies :heart_eyes:
There will be a gradual thinning as they grow, until the pots that have multiples have one or two only.
I am delighted to see the pineapple doing well. I predict that the BB#3 will croak, because it has a thin, dark green, and not growing look that I’ve come to associate with root damage. I’m not in the mood to baby any weaklings this time around. They all need to earn their places. Be awesome, or be compost. :wink:










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That’s a whole lotta babies.

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Not for long - the killing has begun today :wink:

Already some clear losers showing. These are pics before I removed all the smallest plants, and all of the non- cannabis plants. I was especially motivated to cull harshly because I have to start spraying for the thrips every 3-4 days, so the fewer plants I have to coat thoroughly the happier I’ll be.
Today was Spinosad, which I chose to start with because it has residual action possibly up to a week. Next will be the herbal oil from you @LoveDaAutos , then insecticidal soap and repeat until flower.

The little gnats are still awful, so I went nuts with sticky traps from my stash.







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You’re definitely nailing your germ rates!!

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Let’s murder some plants together today :wink:
Here’s what I’m culling, and some reasons why. All these seeds were planted directly in the soil 12 days ago. The soil mix is inexact and not homogenous. The large grow bags have a bit less of the fancy soil. I forgot about that when I was choosing where to put specific kinds of seeds.

For perspective, here is a comparison of the smallest seedling to one of the largest:


I’m keeping the little one alive mostly just for perspective. It’s unlikely to amount to much. I may plant another of that kind to replace it.

So, here we have an easy decision. Red X means doom. The littlest ones die. There seems to be one clear “best” but that’s a grow bag with plenty of room for those 3 to continue developing, just in case the big one is a male and doesn’t end up as the winning male.

How about this one though? This was difficult, the one on the right looked a tiny bit smaller, but not much. They are so close together though, I’m sure they won’t be good for each other. So I flipped the leaves over and underneath we see that the plant on the left has many new leaves emerging. That represents a lot more “power” output, and will give it a serious advantage very quickly. I’ll remove the one on the right. I could end up with only a male, but its no big deal if so for this variety.


This was harder, the plant on the right is clearly the best, but the rest are doing fairly well. I’ll cull the one furthest away, it looks smallest, and the center one because it will provide space so I can keep the big one on the right and also one on the left hopefully long enough to determine sex. The idea is to cull them before they are large enough to touch leaves.

These all look great, and none of the leaves are touching. They can grow in peace. I listened to the delightful book The Light Eaters recently, which covers a lot of interesting plant research in a nice narrative form, and one of the things the author mentioned were studies showing that at least some kinds of plants share root and sun space in a much more “friendly” way with their siblings. Since all my multi-seeded pots are entirely siblings, this might be why I don’t see big negative effects to them growing together.

With these I had to remind myself that although the plants on the left are decent, for this variety at this time I am only trying to grow out exceptionally vigorous plants.

Here we have three excellent Miss Piggy from @Carty and one cull. The light over 2 & 4 has turned itself off a couple times, which may be why they aren’t quite as large as #1. I’m delighted to see these three all among the top performers so far.

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14 days old and I just composted 6 males. Having to spray every surface of every leaf every few days has made me completely intolerant of unnecessary plants, which is pretty much opposite of my normal state. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

I can see one of the Miss Piggy originals is also a male, but that’s acceptable. The male casualties included all the beast mode. I did need to reduce the total plants in order to fit them all under the good lights, so it’s okay. Pics again soon.

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How do you transplant those little autos? Big hand shovel to make sure you get everything?

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