Thanks GMan, yeah I let him pollinate all the females and the seed production is off the charts. I’ve only seen seed production this intense from landraces and multi use strains bred as drug and food crops for resin and seed production. This line is very fertile, and very stable under stress.
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resinous male hash
When I chopped the male there was a lot of resinous leaf and resinous male flower material, enough for a good batch of hash. So stripped the spent male flowers, and processed the tops and resin leaves into a batch of food grade alcohol old school honey oil hash.
The male has a really interesting smell, whenever I opened the tent it smelled intensely like olives. It made the whole place smell like an italian deli haha. A very complex aromatic salty briny type smell like a mixed olives, and a definite kalamata type smell. When you actually rub the resin, it gives off a very sweet floral perfume and rose smell.
The hash came out pretty well, it yielded at least 3 grams. didn’t bother to weigh it but the yield was comparable to batches made with the same amount of material from female plants.
It wasn’t as pure as hash made with a female though, it was impossible to remove all the flowers and pollen, and much of the resin was on unopened male flower pods. It came out yellow, with a rim of green chlorophyll impurity around the edges.
It retained the unique smell of the male plant, briny olives and rose with additional complex oily notes. Smells kind of like women’s cosmetics.
I hit some with my enail, the flavor and smell were overwhelmingly strong compared to normal female resin hash. It was very medicinal, and I felt a nice warm indica high coming on. It didn’t vaporize as cleanly, and it was a bit harsher. I didn’t stick with it long enough to really see what the high could do, just one small dose.
I thought the olive flavor would be really interesting as an edible, so I just made the bulk of the hash into butter and used to make a loaf of irish soda bread. It’s in the oven right now. I can definitely smell that funky olive and floral rose now as it finishes cooking. I’ll let you all know how it turns out and what the high is like. It’s a nice mild bread so I should really be able to taste the hash.
I have some pictures of the male plant before chop as well.
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the hash bread is gooooood.
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This hash bread is very tasty and very heady. The flavor is very complex and savory with a hint of floral rose and citrus in the crust. I can definitely taste the mild olive like flavor, and occasional hints of more intense dankness.
Very medicinal with an intense body stone and decent pain relief.
I don’t decarb my cannabis when I make edibles, so the psychoactive potency probably could have been increased, but I find this way I can get a better medicinal effect in ratio to the high, and don’t have to be quite as careful with dosing. With decarbed edibles I can easily get too high before I get the medicinal effects I really need.
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I think savory edibles are underappreciated. I could eat this heady bread every day. No sugar, low in fat, and plenty of kick. Head bread could render the pot brownie obsolete.
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I like it! Head Bread!
Blessings…
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Hey @zephyr! I’m about to pop some Lebanese from my friend @lefthandseeds. Several selections. Come by the Shitkicker Shed in 2 weeks to see. I know you’ll appreciate it.
Blessings…
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@nube thanks again for the green crack x chocolate trip f2 from schwaggy seeds.
This is exactly what I have been looking for for the past 5-10 years.
The high is just like I remembered it. I can’t tell you how excited I am about this. It’s nice to know I wasn’t just looking at that strain with green tinted glasses.
It makes amazing fresh frozen / live resin concentrates.
Green crack s1 x chocolate trip - raw resin honey oil food grade alcohol concentrate
The high is exactly what I would expect from green crack, and this hybrid is a lot easier to grow than green crack ever was. Very nice yields and appearance with giant colas, and although bud rot is still a problem with our fall rains, it is nowhere near as susceptible as the original green crack was. If I wasn’t waiting for seeds to ripen, I could have gotten a perfect healthy (slightly early) harvest 2 or 3 weeks ago.
I am growing one female, seeded with bodhi’s cangshan. I’m letting it go as long as possible to try to get some ripe seeds out of it, being a pure sativa the cangshan males showed up very late in the season.
My friend got a perfect harvest from 3 females, he is already smoking it and loves the effects. It sounds like overall, this is his favorite line that he has ever grown.
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That’s so awesome those worked out for you! 
I think I gave out three or four packs of those and you’re the first to grow them. Did you get any pics of them while growing?
I want to hear more about these 14ft bodhi cangshan plants! Are you going to get any viable seeds from the F2?
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I’ll look for any photos of the green crack x chocolate trip. I’ve been having a hard time documenting the grow recently.
The cangshan are doing very well. They are very hardy resilient plants that seem do well in all weather conditions. They are even taller now.
The males have really interesting purple flowers. The males have an open plume like structure, and only open a few flowers at a time. The flowers are short lived and drop very soon after they open. The males and females are both slow flowering. The females are finally bulking up from single strands of calyxes into flowy braid like strands of flower.
The pollination seems to occur primarily through dropping whole flowers onto the females, and through direct contact between the male and female branches in the upper canopy.
These are really beautiful plants. I will definitely get viable seeds from them.
I’ll get some seeds from my hybrid outcrosses too. I used the first preflowers from the earliest cangshan male for selective pollinations, and then was able to pollinate with the rest of the male plants when they opened their flowers 2-3 weeks later.
So I have a few fully ripe seeds from the first pollination, and the rest of the seeds are coming in slowly. Because the hybrid plants had been flowering for a while before pollination they are only 1/3 seeded or less. Pretty lightly seeded.
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@zephyr ,
I am doing a GDP seed run. If you care to check it out you can read up on what I have going on my journal. I don’t want to clutter your thread.
I’m interested in whether you might have some of Ken’s stock that I might get a male from for another branch or two on my GDP clones. Or, better yet, some pollen from a male of yours.
Of course your welcome to some of the GDP seeds I create. Holler on my thread if you wish.
Thanks. 
BTW @Greasy sent me. lol
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I just found two seeds stashed away in a baggy labeled “shaman? – SF origins.”
I was sure the last of these had been stolen years ago. these must have survived the move from SF.
They are a little old, but I have been growing plenty of seeds from breeders packs made around the same time, and got decent germ rates on those.
if these are actually the same seeds I grew in my first ever grow, it’s an old skunk line which was passed around in the SF medical community as seeds and clones since the mid or late 90s.
I had a few stashes of shaman given to me at different times by local growers who knew I liked that strain. based on the “sf origins” label, this particular batch of seeds might have come from an early led vertical farm grow in SF, which was cutting edge at the time.
that was a production grow so I doubt they ever kept males. this could be accidental pollination by a nearby stress herm plant with accidental light burn. or it could be a shaman cut which was purposefully pollinated by a reversed clone.
so they may or may not be the pure shaman. they are basically just a classic accidental bag seed that happened to come from a very unique and carefully managed medical grow, which had access to the best genetics that were available at the time.
what do you all think? is it time for me to roll the dice on these mystery seeds?
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Yeah, man, do it! When you mentioned Shaman, I actually remembered you talking about those in this thread, even before I clicked on the posts you included. Which seems like a good sign to me haha.
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If you’re worried about germination, I just soaked five seeds in a little bit of water and fulvic a couple weeks ago (one tablespoon of fulvic and one-third gallon of water). Never soaked seeds before, but all five of them sank in about ten hours, put them in soil and they were all above ground within sixty hours. I dunno. I thought that was kind of impressive haha.
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I also found the freebies from the second time I ever bought seeds online. the most interesting commercial seeds in this stash were 2 rare dankness Blue Ox seeds, and 1 feminized Ace Orient Express freebie.
I’m pretty sure the rare dankness is a slow growing bubba hybrid which didn’t work for my indoor setup at the time.
the orient express was discontinued for a while, and this fem freebie is the original version.
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Haha, I actually have four packs of those Blue Ox seeds that I got as freebies from Attitude when I went on my little seed buying frenzy a couple summers ago. They sound interesting, but I’m not planning on growing any of them any time soon. Maybe I should, though. I’ve found myself craving those sorta “Indica” lazy strains lately. Probably because of this winter weather, I dunno.
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cool, I’ve got some high end fulvic / humic fulvic acid product in my grow supplies. Sounds like a perfect technique for hybrids.
landraces sometimes freak out when I use fulvic acid to kick start them, but anything adapted to modern nutrient and cultivation methods should do fine.
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I love heavy indicas. I’m just not sure I have the patience for something as slow and compact as the bubba right now.
recently I’ve been gravitating towards anything nostalgic that I used to smoke 10-15 years ago. I keep wondering if the highs will be the same as I used to perceive them. so far my results have been pretty good. the green crack hybrid I grew definitely lived up to my expectations.
I’m also really enjoying the goji x larry og x grandaddy purple hybrid. That really hit the spot for that classic og kush effect, but it had the classic sweet berry and grape terpene profile of the gdp and goji.
and I can tell it’s the old genetics because it has the same problems that these lines had when I grew the clones from harborside. ultra dense buds that are so solid they don’t even dry out effectively. it’s very difficult to dry and cure them properly.
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the next line on the menu is @anon98660487 's purple urkle x romulan hybrid, which he made with seeds from a medical dispensary supplier in SF.
His photos were amazing, the flowers looked like urkle bud in romulan structured colas, and a very heavy branchy structure. These are fem seeds, so I’m going to be selecting a mother (or two) to keep for long term medical use. the romulan and urkle are both very special medical lines, and both have extremely potent and distinctive highs.
After that, my next breeding project will be preserving a snowcap hybrid from snowhigh. the snowcap was a really great uplifting sativa which was incredibly psychoactive with no anxiety. that was one of my favorite humboldt lines. those seeds were courtesy of guitarzan, he and his collective are slowly working to preserve Snow’s lines which only exist as f1’s.
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Yeah, I feel you on that for sure. That’s a good point and interesting question, re: will they smoke the same as they did back then? I mean, in theory they should, but you factor in just the age difference (in us haha), being older etc etc… I dunno. But it’s still fun to blaze some of the old stuff that I haven’t seen around in years. Personally, I’ve found that some do, some don’t, but again, being older etc is always gonna affect things. Plus, shit is just way, way weirder right now than it was fifteen years ago haha. But even just cannabis-specific, because so many of the newer hybrids are such garbage, why not grow those older strains that we loved so much back in the day?
Like Snowcap! Haha. Dude, I haven’t seen that around in yeeeeeeearrrrsssss, used to get it from this one dispensary (back when I was going to dispensaries) ten or twelve years ago. Always really loved it, haven’t even thought about that strain in forever. The good ol’ days haha… Anyway, yeah, that sounds like a fun project, for sure. Snowcap’s real good weed.
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Totally random bump from strolling through your thread, but I grew Hazeman’s Urban Poison (Green Crack x Durban Poison) and would recommend it as a place to look for a really nice variation on Green Crack. I’ve only flowered one female which I still hold, and it was an absolute monster cola-builder and the most vigorous plant I’ve ever grown.
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