Defoliation vs No(little) defoliation

Didn’t ignore anything, just don’t put any credibility on that study.

Flawed regarding the topic at hand. For instance - factors at play there:

Hypothesis: fast- and slow-growing plants would respond differently to defoliation treatments through changes in carbohydrate concentration after defoliation.

Fast vs slow… Huh?

“Seeds of Cirsium vulgare, Digitalis purpurea, Verbascum thapsus, Verbascum blattaria, Carduus nutans, Arctium minor and Senecio jacobaea were sown between 15 and 21 March 2007…”

Anyhow, pull all the leaves off. They serve no purpose and just get in the way. :rofl:

UB

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There’s a good one, lots of light. I was discussing this paradigm long ago when noobs would literally bleach out their leaves with too much light imbalanced with a lack of N.

It’s all about the plant’s light saturation point. Determine what the point is for your faves and you’re good to go. Always aim at tad lower, not higher.

Cannabis does not need the extreme light your buddies parrot. Nor does a fruit like an apple or a cluster of grapes need direct light. The fruit usually gets shade hanging within the canopy or filtered light. Case in point - I had a bonus crop of Meyer lemons this year on my one small tree, 5’ H X 7’ W… Am at 198 and still counting big, rich, pure juice fruit. They are grown in a greenhouse with 12 year old polycarb covering that has become very dull. FC readings at noon are really low, like 1,800 F.C.

Here’s a couple against a background of orange I grafted, top worked to a key lime tree. Most are embedded deep into the tree’s canopy.

Here’s my paper I wrote long ago on the matter. See the section under light.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/uncle-bens-gardening-tweeks-and-pointers.267989/

Good luck,
Uncle Ben

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This sounds reversed to me. It would seem to me the carbs aren’t “stored” in the roots so much as they accumulate because lacking sufficient leaf mass they cannot be processed and put to use by the plant.

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Haha @GREANDAL doesnt have 86 years of growing experience therefore his point is invalid /sarcasm

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The best “cabinets” are those with sides and a celing that can be adjusted inward or out according to the garden’s footprint.

Moral of the story - don’t “box” yourself in. :slightly_smiling_face:

Oh boy. Now we apparently don’t agree that some plants grow fast and some grow slow…
This is what the ignore button is for…bye Ben, and bye bye trolls drama.
Have fun being right all the time…I bet your partners love you

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Maybe just your plants grow slow because you don’t understand basic plant nutrition!

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Thank you,
Uncle Ben

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My butt hurts because I ate too many jalapeños last night but it’s not on the form.

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You’re right!
But I’ve been growing for 122 years, and this is what’s right:
Tear off the taproot as soon as it emerges. If the cotyledon made it out, tear those off as well.
Gently place aphid larva around the rootless,leafless sprout, and then put a chicken fried steak next to it… it’s got what plants crave.
If you do anything other than what I do you’re an idiot who has never grown pot, and also doesn’t deserve to have a job.
ONE HUNDRED TWENTY TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE!

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I mean shit I’ve been growing for 25 years but I like to think I don’t use it as a weapon and that it speaks for itself.

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Oh the controversial subject of defoliation…
All I will say is that every situation, environment, and plant, is different.
No reason for controversy. After all, we as people are also different, and that’s what makes life great!
My two cents!

:v::heart:

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Oh, most of us agree on that point brother… only one person here is stubbornly refusing to discuss the disagreement…

Oh, I’ve been lurking and biting some tongue :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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It’s not about this post and @OldUncleBen specifically (luv you), but in killing the time while i’m reading a bunch of posts : Sometimes it turn in a “LinkedIn OG” ^^ I don’t really blame, but in most of the cases it’s anonymous debate. It don’t really add extra value.

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Let me know if this response is good, I won’t be able to see :laughing::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::rofl:

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Oh it is…

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It’s a good one. You missed it.

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Yummy! Being from Texas, now you’re talking. Last night I grilled hot and fast, to get those black grill marks on large fresh jalapenos, thick slices of pineapple and a Prime N.Y Strip. I stuff my jalapenos with cheese after splitting them a bit and scraping out the seeds and membranes, wrap in 1- 2 pieces of thin bacon, secure with a couple of toothpicks and grill.

All right, carry on…

I like ‘‘em with cream cheese and Panko and other ways too.

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