Gpaw's New grow (#5),CBD photoperiod

Yeah complacency is my biggest problem, with plant problems lol. By the time I realize I have a problem they are almost beyond help lol.

I am making a lot more time for my plants now, easy access to them is my main problem, with my back and neck all messed up, I pull them out now at least once a week for a closer inspection, with the mite problems I have had.

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Those are nice buds :sunny:

Hard to think that those smoke won’t get you high. Do they relax you when smoked or only when eating gummies ?

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CBD will relax me when I smoke it but no where near as much as using RSO oil or edibles. It’s a slow subtle removal of anxiety, over a couple of hours, you only realise how calm and relaxed you are, when you stop taking it, and all the anxiety and stress starts increasing again.

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You know. @green_raver that is an interesting question and it gives me a solution; up until now I’ve been curing and extracting a tincture (then making the gummies).
I have been suspicious as to whether or not some of these plants might exhibit a 1:1 instead of claimed 20:1 ratio (after reading through the CBD thread and others). Simply smoking some bud before processing will answer that question!
As @Shadey says, it can relaxe you to a an anxiety free ‘puddle’. Darned good pain relief too.
The most amazing thing for me is waking up the next day. That long slow withdrawal from deep sleep and languid laziness that reminds me of waking up as a kid;
and nothing aches or hurts!
I was fooling around and added some CBD butter to my sativa derived THC chocolates with interesting results. Turns out you can fine tune the final product for a variety of effects. I’ve read about the synergistic effect of 1:1 for cancer patients but I think there is a lot more applications to explore.

Cheers
G

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Yes I get it. Looks like a part of the effect of Afghan and North Indian lines. I like a lot the Hindu Kush when you smoke only a few tokes. Nice funny bump lasting around 1 h and then a relaxing feeling until a good sleep with no hangover the next morning.

I use to mix my weeds also, can be funny. But un-accurate compared to your experiments :slightly_smiling_face:

Thanks for sharing

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I think mixing different kinds of smoke whether it be cbd or thc makes different highs. About the super cropping that was talked about earlier. I use to grow hundreds of tomatoes in 4ft cages and grew my pot in the cages one about every 15 plants and super cropping was the only way to keep them short below the cages. There was no mercy. Once a top showed above the cage it was immediately bent back down. That bruising you all saw was either cut off or sprayed with a chemical but only on the effected area. Mostly just cut em off. Great thread guys! Definitely caught my attention!

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Hey Cory!
Good to see you making the rounds.
I learned to grow in tomato cages - love them.
I’m planning on doing a high stress manifold grow in cages the grow after next. There are some amazing grows at OG, in many regards its like graduate school for stoners. There is amazing shit around every corner. A stoner hive-mind…

Cheers
G

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Random Bud Porn
Some of the recent ‘money shots’
Doc 3 showing off her fall colours



under story bud




ENJOY!

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This is great. I grown in so much shit and anything that breaks up a plant.

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Hey G what do consider a manifold grow cuz I’ll grow when u do same way. I got some auto seeds coming my way… how but we start our seeds the same time and go from there??

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Great looking plants. It’s got some heavy crystals!

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My next grow will be Northern Lights autos. Autos are nice and easy (in soil anyway).
The grow after that I’ll manifold (some GG#4 and white widow).
Autos, you basically just grow them. They don’t respond like photo period plants to training.

Cheers
G

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Im curious what do you mean they dont respond to training?

Ive been doing scrog and LST and FIMing my autos from day one. Seems to work ok for me.

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You’re not really supposed to because autos have a short veg period so any topping/fimming you do can possibly make it so it doesnt recover in time for when it starts to flower - or so I have read, ive only ever accidentally grown a couple autos :grimacing:

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I think the carbonate part of the calcium in eggshells needs to be cleaved off by bacteria, before the plants can absorb the Ca. When we bake it, we drive off some Co2 so the calcium and phosphorus is more readily available.
Take that all with a grain of salt tho, lol. Never took a chem class in my life.

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That’s ‘fuzzy territory’ for me too. I didn’t know about the bacteria part of this @Foreigner , I assumed the calcium carbonate was going into solution.
I’ve known that crushed eggshells would last a couple years in compost and assumed that the slow breakdown was due to the size of the chunks. Now that I have a good surplus now of eggshell powder I can test that hypothesis.

Thank-you guys! New side project to investigate. :+1:

Cheers
G

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Are you working with sativa dominate autos?
Like @7lpdwcaw, I was warned off manipulation of Autos. What I have grown out were Indica dominate and well behaved height wise so I didn’t ‘have an urge’ to mess with them.

Cheers
G

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Im not sure about sativa/indica ratios in the ones Ive grown. I suspect some of both? None of them have been the super fast autos. All have stayed fairly short though.

The Dragon Tongue CBD I got from @Sebring, and the Ghost Toof x SBR from @ReikoX are the only autos Ive grown to harvest so far. Both seemed to respond just fine to the training I did - FIMing/topping early, followed by LST under a scrog screen - which continued well into flowering. I averaged well over 1 kg per plant (trimmed wet weight) - which is well above average for autos.

It seems to me that the FIMing/topping does slow them down a little maybe - all have taken longer than the average of other growers with the same strains to reach harvest. It certainly didnt hurt yields. I dont think doing a simple LST would even delay them. I also managed to add some serious drought stress on each grow. I know that was a factor for sure as far as delaying harvest.

I do think you need to start training earlier than with photos or you will run out of time and wont see the full results.

There was someone else having good results training autos, but I forget who it was - @Mr.Sparkle maybe?

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You sure can’t argue those results!
LST slows done photo period a little as well so no difference there.
Huh, that is an interesting data point, thanx!

So, the implication is you can do more training with the slower autos and less with the fast ones?

Cheers
G

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@DiggySoze and @Foreigner,

Thanks guys, that was a nice distraction today! Yeah, I was bored…

Lets see if I can splice in the block of text…

Calcium Carbonate & uptake research

Well, that was an interesting research project.

I have learned I’ve been misapplying my CC in flower top dressing… Calcium will bind up potassium – that explains why my use of Gaia Green Bloom top dressing in flower didn’t do as much as I expected.

Also according to the Promix folks,

If your calcium level in your water has 40 – 60 PPM – no worries (I’m paraphrasing but for some reason I cannot cut ‘n paste)

According to Peel Region (local) water report (2018), I’ve got 120 – 130 mg/L. (For a first order approximation - I’ll go with that…)

From Wiki re quality of agricultural lime.

Because the acids in soil are relatively weak, agricultural limestones must be ground to a small particle size to be effective. The extension service of different states rate the effectiveness of stone size particles slightly differently.[12] They all agree, however, that the smaller the particle size the more effective the stone is at reacting in the soil.[13] Measuring the size of particles is based on the size of a mesh that the limestone would pass through. The mesh size is the number of wires per inch.[14] Stone retained on an 8 mesh will be about the size of BB pellets. Material passing a 60 mesh screen will have the appearance of face powder. Particles larger than 8 mesh are of little or no value, particles between 8 mesh and 60 mesh are somewhat effective and particles smaller than 60 mesh are 100 percent effective.

For reference: 60 mesh equals 250 micron particle size or 0.001”

TL:DR

Blend it to a fine powder

So, now the ‘hands on part’

For S&G (shits and giggles)

I took 1 cup of pH’d & bleached (50PPM) water. (+48Hrs. old)

pH = 6.2(ish)

and added 1.25mL (1.58g )of powdered eggshell, gave it a good stir and let it settle.

Observations

water still has some ‘cloud’ to it and there is lots of sediment. I will try to measure the amount left out of solution but this will take a while.

1Hr, 15m later, pH = 7 (ish) So some went into solution.

A day later I canted off the water and dried out the residual powder. 1.14 g remaining and that being med/course ground material. So about 28% into solution… that sounds like a lot of calcium…


Conclusion

I’m removing my powdered eggshell from my top dressing recipes.
Use will be for base soil preparations.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01904168009362774

Thanks and Cheers
G

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