Just your basic golden-crowned flying fox. Lots of cool photos in the article.
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Only thing that bothered me was the comment about Transsexualsâ sexualizing kidsâŚ
That was not furthering the point of NOT politicizing it-- it made it hate speech.
If thatâs what he believes- fine⌠but it doesnât belong here-- any more than anti-Semitism, racism, etcâŚ
OG is made up of people from all races, religions, orientations etc⌠Hateful shit doesnât belong here
IMOâHere- EVERYONE ââis OGââ unless they prove themselves unworthy through their behavior.
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so thats how covid got around the world in such a short time 
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If Iâm reading it right, heâs saying that emotional and social desires, if neglected long enough, can affect mental health and therefore theyâre as important as food. And no, theyâre just not. You wonât die from lack of social validation, unless you kill yourself. Youâll die from lack of food, water, oxygen, etc. Yes, Maslow may have labeled them as needs, but he also made certain to clarify that they can only rise to that level if true survival needs are met. To me, that more properly means desires.
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I heard an argument about how the chicken was the most successful animal on the planet because there are 33 billion of them. But would you say life has improved for the individual chicken?
We have to get at least a little of what we desire.
A fate worse than death? Who knows. But we are like those chickens.
Survival vs flourishing maybe.
@Cormoran is close, but not quite there whether it is believed or not. itâs called âmaslovâs hierarchy of needsâ not desires. when the immediate needs are met, the others also need to be met as well. and go ahead refuse to believe that mental health is a need or that it wonât kill you, 22 veterans who kill themselves every day would argue that if they were here. a system of beliefs is necessary for humans to interact socially, whether it comes from religion or the air. the problem is when men get control of things they have a tendency to corrupt them. take christianity for example: from what we can tell of the earliest message, it was pretty clear that it was all about loving one another and being nice. then they had to defend those views to philosophers at the time so they invented all sorts of crap to make it sound good. iâve been studying biblical greek so i can read the manuscripts so i could go on, but you get the idea.
while it is tue that you may be able to survive for extended periods of time without anything above the base level on the hierarchy, it is also true that failing to get those needs met leads to all sorts of extreme behavioral abnormalities up to and including homicidal and suicidal actions, not to mention the manifestations of mental illness that are less than lethal but no less debilitating.
it took me decades to realize that mental health is health. i suppose it had something to do with all the âmachoâ jobs that i have had, combat engineer, construction work, truck driver, spec ops support, all with no women and a huge aversion to anything which would make one appear weak. iâm not that messed up, but i have realized lately that itâs ok to not have all the answers. i also realized that there is more than one reality. mine may or may not be the same as yours. that doesnât mean either of them are invalid, just that they are different.
thatâs why i gave the cliff notes on the first comment. sometimes i ramble a tadâŚ
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Uh⌠you say potato, I say potato? Apparently this rests on whether or not you believe that suicide is a choice, or whether itâs involuntary. I think itâs a choice. Obviously a poor choice, but still a choice. Or maybe itâs not a poor choice, maybe it depends on the individual. Itâs their life, not mine or yours. How do you know theyâd argue that if they were here? Maybe theyâd argue with you over your presumption that you can make their choices for them.
With the meme sharing thread shut down due to politics, lets try this again with an explicit no politics AT ALL rule.
So letâs try this again, memes only, no politics, letâs have some fun fam
Reminder, this thread is non-political in nature, not intended as a general chat, and rather is for memes.
Considering cleaning up some of the chatter. Please bring this back on track. Thank you.
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iâm pretty sure we are arguing on what is a need. at least that is what i thought it was, and my take is that all the things on maslovâs hierarchy of needs are needs while i thought your opinion was that everything above the first level are desires. my reasoning was that not having those needs met caused auxiliary issues up to and including homicide and suicide. whether they are choices or not is irrelevant since they would not have happened had the needs been met. did i misunderstand your stance?
You misunderstood the thread being closed, it seems. Iâm done with this. Arguing over semantics on the internet in the first place⌠Iâm about ready to make the choice to commit seppuku myself. 
Itâs the only way to reclaim my honor!
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Agreed, Im here for the memes, not some discussions, especially political onesâŚthe name of the thread couldnt be more obviousâŚtake it elewhere please, like PMs. A lot of scroling past that stuffâŚ
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