Wow, itâs an attractive moth with deadly larva. Thanks for that photo. Does the moth also do damage or just the larva? Iâm assuming the bt spray takes care of the larva but I imagine you have to continually spray to maintain control like I do with my cabbage moths in my vegetable garden. So that brings me to the question, can you smoke bt? Iâve been told you canât smoke spinosad, isnât bt similar to the spinosad?
Hold on let me sit on my davenport and log into Quantum Computing Services real quick and pull up Backrub. Iâll put on my Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo headphones so I can hear better to learn more about Taylor Ham!
I think I have the answer Alex! That would be a sofa, AOL, Google, and Sony! What are the original names that no one ever uses because they would be wrong now, regardless of the fact that at one time that was the name!
Alex Trebek (from the grave) - Correct! We also would have accepted âWhat would be a super pretentious way to refer to every day items that are clearly named differentlyâ!
Taylor Ham hasnât been the name since 1906. This isnât a case where it changed in your lifetime 
Youâre literally arguing that something that has been called one thing by the company and functionally literate adults for half a century before you were even born is named something else. If it changed when you were in your 20s I get it. Do you still call the south the Confederacy too? 
You mean like the company and world did when they changed the name to Pork Roll? I do like it more well done though.
I donât think the adults do much damage, but Iâm not sure. They donât have a proboscis, they have kind of a split mouth, but they might still drink nectar (or they might just reproduce and die without eating). The cry proteins produced by bacillus thuringensis are what make bt work, and theyâre safe to eat, they do allow Bt to be applied to tobacco and there are Bt tobacco varieties but Iâm not sure how widely theyâre grown. If youâre squeamish about it you can stop application later in the flowering cycle
Well Mao is pregnant. Anyone want some kittens 
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Yeah you gonna mail them?
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Iâm probably just gonna take them to the local shelter once sheâs had and weened them. Theyâre a no kill shelter so theyâll be fine.
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I thought it was a pretty good deal It will be a nice ceiling fan For the top of the tent. Window unit for a 150$
Being safe to eat and being safe to smoke are, I guess, two different things. The fact that the tobacco industry has gotten the approval of the government doesnât make me feel any better. The chemical Arsenal that the US government allows is constantly being changed. Iâve had many conversations with folks at Cornell University who say that concern over these things is overblown and exaggerated. Iâve been told that Glyphosate (Round Up) is totally safe, you could almost drink it. I was also told that neonicotinoid insecticides were the best, least problematic pesticides weâve ever had. I remember many Cornell folks making fun of the organic community. This was all 20 years ago and I know that attitude has no doubt changed. Everyone knows our pollinators are declining and many point to systemic neonics like imidacloprid as at least partly responsible. I guess my point is if I shouldnât smoke spinosad, I probably wonât want to smoke bt either. I donât expect the cannabis industry has the same influence as the tobacco industry. But- I donât have bud worms so I canât judge anyone for trying to save their crop. I canât imagine the contaminates Iâve smoked and eaten in my over 50 years of cannabis use. Some of those kilos from Mexico and Columbia were awful moldy. And were they using the DDT that the chemical companies probably sold them after it was banned in the US. And Richard Nixonâs paraquat spraying of Mexican weedâŚ
In my vegetable garden, most of the beds have row covers. I guess Iâll have to think about potential insect pests and diseases that could be moving north, as the climate here gets wetter and warmer over time.
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My Mephisto order just arrivedâŚ
Yay, new freebies!
(This order, freebies were 3 Bears OG x Mango Smile!)
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As far as I know, even the spinosad ban is speculative and due to a lack of evidence more than evidence of harms. I will say that to my knowledge, Bt applied to the surface of the plant wonât be absorbed into tissue, which is the proposed concern in spinosad application. Itâs also not very stable in sunlight, it should be completely degraded within a few days, and even less stable exposed to heat. Not to mention that if youâre smoking cannabis, you should probably be more concerned with the known cancer risk of combustion products than the assumed risk of a low-concentration protein. Itâs water soluble, so if youâre still concerned about it, rinse it off.
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Or donât use it! No pest pressure, no need to apply a pesticide! I donât particularly care either way about organic farming and the organic approved pesticides employed in it, suit your style.
Iâm heading out to the lake. The big cats are hitting hard and the boat hasnât been skipping the waves often enough to suit me.
Wish me luck and Iâll catch yâall tomorrow.
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lol just as long as no hooks are involved in âcatching us tomorrowâ⌠
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Clearly you donât get north much. Ask for a Pork Roll and Cheese up here. Just ask. Theyâll laugh and send you packing southâŚ
Blackened has blackened seasoning. Mmmm Mmmmm YUMMY!
Oh then blackened could be good.
Thatâs like laughing at someone because they can read. It hurts my head to think of it happening, let alone it being a point of pride to be illiterate Look at Mr Fancy Learninâ over here yall!
Hey youâre good with electronics stuff right? When you come down here maybe you could inform some of my electronic purchases at Sound of Music? Some people would call them Best Buy because thatâs whatâs on the sign and itâs what theyâre called now (and for a long time) but we laugh those people away!
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Shits and giggles asked a friend who has restaurant and Taylor is a choice of ham. They donât have pork roll⌠But - You search on sysco site - Pork Roll and bam - Taylor Ham
This is the box. I donât know how to provide more evidence than the box the company uses, the Taylor company who invented the stuff.
Now if youâll excuse me I have to go to Funcoland for some video gamesâŚ
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I know, Iâm middle of the road, a chef and someone who thought of it always as Taylor Ham, But Iâm from New Paltz NY
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LOL, this is all good to me. I try to avoid any meat that has the words loaf or roll in them.
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