In theory people could refuse to trade with each other unless they each had a good feedback thread; that would also require all of us to actually start giving feedback in the feedback threads, which doesn’t really happen right now. I haven’t bothered setting one up myself, because they’re just not part of the culture here and I know it wouldn’t get used. The system has the potential to work, but it doesn’t match with the way we all behave, so it doesn’t. Does that make it the system’s fault, or ours? I guess the only answer is yes.
Im sure he was being shady 100% especially now all i was saying was its not that hard to get seeds and trade for seeds on here you dont have to go around ripping people off being a Dirtball but as soon as anything worth of value comes into play Some people can’t help themselves and they have to scree people over and cast a shadow on all the good deeds done on here.I sure as hell aint defending any of it i condone all that shit and being a Rat is a different story i have special contempt for Rats.
If a feedback page is the only way to publicly call someone else then it should automatically be added when you sign up. That way everyone has one no matter what cause like @Cormoran said that doesn’t really happen, plus they wouldn’t do it anyways. Also if a person creates the thread they can edit it which defeats the whole concept of a feedback page. When acct is created it should automatically create a user feedback page that the user can’t edit or control. That would put the Conversation into public a bit at least.
@LemonadeJoe … @420noob and @Cormoran have a great point there… I think that would actually work… or something like it…
You can only edit your own comments. You have no control over what others rate you with or the comments made. It can work if used to some degree.
There is still nothing stopping someone from building up good credentials on a feedback page and then turn around and rip people off,
Nothing is going to stop some folks from being greedy and ripping others off. But there should be some type of recourse for those that decide to do so.
Allowing them to continue that process after clearly ripping folks is the problem. You can only get the word out so much as not everyone reads a lot of the site.
I don’t see why “suspected” rippers can’t have their right to direct message others taken away until they are either cleared of being a ripper or if found to be a ripper banned from the site. No need for a list of shame so to speak. If they get ugly on site after their dm’s are removed ban them.
Trading with anyone comes with inherited risk. That will never change. I celebrate the fact I have far more positive trades than the three or four bad ones. Trying to police trades will only make things worse imo. This site is amazing as is. Don’t change anything.
Personally it matters little to me what gets done or not. I have stopped trading so I have no dog in this fight. I just hate to see good folks get burnt and think less of a site that has been so good for everyone.
I still believe a wiki style list of outstanding trades would help. Just a place to list who was given what when enough time has passed and the other party won’t respond. It wouldn’t be a list of all trades, trades would be listed when they become a concern to one party suspects they would not be fulfilled. Then members could see a list of Unfulfilled commitments that a member is not addressing. Everyone would know when they start piling up. When unfulfilled trades are made public, frequently more members come forth with other unfulfilled items. Many folks are reluctant to come forward when it’s just them alone negatively calling someone out.
If people start publicly listing every trade on OG, I’d expect alot less tradeing to happen overall as I doubt lots of people want to have a public list of their dealings.
Personally I’d leave things how it is currently!
I’ve been on both ends many times, sent and not received or I’ve sent and it’s been lost ect.
I send out & re-send if possible, otherwise offer something els. If I get “stiffed” I usually say nothing and just don’t have any future dealings what that person.
No drama, no mess, no problems.
Just my opinion
Ps. I don’t know what this thread is about, just responding to the last message or two here.
I was thinking more of the list as a last resort when someone won’t send or respond. It wouldn’t be practical or necessary to list all trades. It would be an consolidated feedback thread and instead of calling out someone for not keeping thier side of the deal, it would be listed as an incomplete or outstanding trade. The main concern is when someone is collecting up everything they can and don’t intend to repay thier side. It seems there is always a line of folks that have given to these folfs and not mentioned it yet.That members name would be popping up on the list more often. It was conceived as a mild way of showing who has a pattern of. failing thier obligations. It’s not a list of shame for one lost trade, it’s a way of seeing who’s made 10 trades or deals and haven’t moved to do thier part.
I just move on and they get black listed essentially.
I’ve made more friends then enemy’s on OG. So its still a big win!
@Kami please post here and explain what’s up. I’d rather not be a middle man and don’t love being messaged before the group is made aware that you’re attempting a recovery of all this. You messaged me just a few minutes ago. Would love to hear from you here.
- Also hope you’re doing well.
Maybe @LemonadeJoe can reinstate your ability to respond if it’s been taken.
Also heard from him, something seems to be happening they were probably a bit overwhelmed or something good that nothings up
I would imagine PMing the mods is probably where he needs to start
I thought lemonadejoe said he wasn’t banning for that very reason … to leave lines of communication OPEN…
He did message the mods team.
I’d expect we would hear from him soon.
He said in his message to me he was unable to respond on threads right now
Hopefully there will be some movement on this, put this thread to bed also
Wow… crazy that he’s trying and unable!!! That seems really unfair… well I hope it all works out for him… after tst he was sort of thrown into a witch hunt, if he’s legitimately trying that’s crappy
Copy pasted what he sent me
For future reference, it’s against site etiquette to show messages between folks.