**OG's Biggest 420 Seed Giveaway ! EPIC** On to part 2

That’s a question for @Northern_Loki to look into.

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I think it’s better to have the communication channel open. Banning from the site would close it.

Naturally, OP won’t be allowed to start more trades/giveaways until this is resolved.

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No no this is not the way to go. More oversight and rules by others leads to bad things. We just need to be more diligent about who we trust and be open with EVERY MEMBER in public and not shame or punish people when they do call someone out like on negative feedback thread. Instead of doing everything in private and being worried about people feelings. Transparency is the key. There is a lot of good members here. It is a bit of a gamble anytime a single person does an event that they can’t find themselves. Now kami (or anyone) could’ve been hospitalized or even died and we would have no way of knowing. Now the fact the kami was on a few days ago degates that idea but it can always happen. Enforcing more rules isn’t the answer. Punishing the whole because of a few assholes is never the answer imho.

I agree with @LemonadeJoe as well in this. It gives them a chance to make right at least total blocking guarantees a lose for everyone. Most people who do these things wouldnt have the balls to comeback and post without correcting there mess up.

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I never said anything about oversight or rules. How about a wall of shame?

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I fixed it for you because you’re a nice guy

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More options to protect us = more rules but that is my honest opinion. Wall of shame or bad deals thread is great idea agree 100%. Only problem is when people get called out and cry b.s. then gets buried by mods. Straight bashing someone definitely shouldn’t be allowed but if someone does someone wrong it should be allowed to be out there for everyone then people can decide for themselves if the person is legit or not. You didn’t say anything against this and it’s I’m not saying anything against you. The pattern of abuse can be stopped if abuser is called out for everyone to see and decide for themselves if the person is worth it or not.

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Even a list of unfinished trades and or deals. Possibly in a wiki style to be edited as obligations are fulfilled. Members could all see who has obligations outstanding and how many.

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Yeah but a lot of unfinished trades aren’t really the fault of anyone, it’s been an issuing with getting seizures lately.

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Some have, but folks are aware of those. Many will send again as well. Just brainstorming anyway. Even with dibs give aways , if they don’t arrive. I send again. We have to up our game, somehow.

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Hundred percent you could probably just set up a thread for that right now if the mods allow it

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There was one but was shut down for people being honest.

So I’m guess we have to self police in private.

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This makes me super sad.I had interactions with Kami and i got good beans i grew them out and they were fire and what he said they were.I dont see why someone would do this.I thought we were all cool here.This really sucks what a bummer.

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That sucks because that’s how we got here.

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Well when people ask you a question in public… turn you in, then remove their comments… stab you in the back with no other explanation to that person…kinda shady…ya think?

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Delete this thread and move on.

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No. Haven’t heard anything, if I remember correctly I did receive some seed for the donation. I’d have to double check. But nothing in the actual giveaway :v:

It’s not about that. It was a mess having only negative reviews in one topic. Not very practical for searching usernames.

Don’t forget we’ve got a whole section Trade Feedback.

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We tried that also and nothing was done until he ripped off the site itself. But I guess it did get the word out to some degree even though there was people defending the OP until his final act:

https://overgrow.com/t/drgonzo13-feedback-thread/93699

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Anytime anyone says anyone negative it gets told to take it to PM, that’s a real issue imo because it allows this stuff to happen.

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Yesterday my comment was perceived as more rules bad but rules aren’t the only way to do something, there’s also structure and procedure. Just like @JustANobody and others have said, the way this is set up is to benefit the snake oil salesman and enable them to continue for months or years. None is going to start a feedback thread when they know it would be all bad feedback.

We cannot just rely on our collective memory to kick in all the time. Should I make a website bannedfromovergrow.com ??

I’m not talking about the one off bad trade… I mean continuous behavior.

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