That’s cool the one DLA5 is looking like her mom! They’re definitely taking their time, but that’s cool, I’m in no rush. The back one kinda smells like pickles 
I’ll keep ya updated on them…
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Looking great, man! I bet if you stick those DLA5 S1 into SIPs, they’ll take off. When you spoke of needing a transplant soon, is that their final destination? If so, it’d be a good time to practice topdressing your SIPs multiple times.
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I love your set up with the covered beds! It’s hard for me to make my tent look "clean’
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The SIPs are full for this round, but if the DLA5 veg slow enough, maybe they’ll be ready for next round 
I actually may try putting one outside in the spring, if it ever gets here!
Thanks man! Yeah the covers make everything look tidy, for sure. This round I also put bowls under the SIPs to catch the overflow, so it should make for an easy clean up if I over fill them. Cleanliness is next to godliness, or something like that… which reminds me, I need to clean my other tents!
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It’s been a while since I busted out the tea brewer. I’m making batch to top water SIPs and hopefully jump-start some life in the new batch of soil. Also I will use it for plants in veg and house plants. I used a simple brew of homemade EWC, small amount of compost, BioAg TM-7, Ful-Humix, Cytoplus (using up samples), and molasses. I didn’t use a bag this time, just dumped everything straight in, stirred, and hope the airlift will agitate enough. It should be done in 24-36 hours. I usually keep it covered as well, otherwise you end up splashing shit everywhere.
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Nice. Supposedly, humic/fulvic acids suppress microbial division, so you may wanna let that brew at least 36 hours, if not longer.
What’s Cytoplus? I know I’ve seen it on the BioAg website, but I can’t remember what it is. Is it an inoculant? I’ve recently been wondering, like, why don’t I just add a tablespoon or so of each of the OG Biowar when I start a compost tea? I’m not sure I’ve ever read about people adding any kind of myco-type things to their teas and I’m not sure why. It seems like if you do that, you’d be certain to at least have all of the various bacteria and fungi that whatever inoculant you use contains in the compost tea. I’ve actually done it a couple times, but who knows if it made a difference?
Anyway… Gotta love those compost teas!
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Something to keep in mind is the Oregon Dept of Ag’s findings with respect to microbial claims from these various companies that are selling inoculants. It was from 2015 or 2016 but I sincerely doubt much has changed since then. Food for thought if nothing else…
source :
micro_2015_BP.pdf (78.8 KB)
https://www.ogcsa.org/oda-finds-big-problems-with-little-organisms/
Tad Hussey of KIS Organics did a podcast with people involved in the study that was pretty enlightening as well, though I think you’ve said in the past you’re not a big fan of podcasts. If you ever need something to listen to it may be worthwhile.
As you know, rules and regulations are an important aspect of cannabis cultivation. In addition, it’s important to know that the products we purchase to use in our garden are safe and providing the nutrients or microbes that are listed on the labels. My interview this week is with Sunny Summers and Matt Haynes with the Oregon Dept of Agriculture. The Oregon Department of Agriculture have been leaders at the State level in regards to product testing and information sharing for consumers. I was very excited that they accepted my request to come on the podcast to talk about some of their findings and to help growers better understand pesticide and fertilizer product labels and some of the challenges around policy enforcement.
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Kelp based micros and fulvic acid. 
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Well that blows… haha! Shit, I guess I won’t be buying OG Biowar anymore. I noticed they didn’t analyze either KIS or BioAg’s inoculant, I’d kind of like to see those results. I’ve got some of BioAg’s, haven’t used it in a while, though.
It’s kind of interesting that every product they did analyze that claimed to contain Pseudomonas and Trichoderma didn’t have any in it. I wonder why that is. Anyway, thanks for the info. I may listen to that podcast. One day…
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I remember listening to this one as it was one of the more recent ones, before I moved to Oregon. I’m glad someone is testing against what companies are putting on the label. I’ve always kind of wondered with ‘live’ microorganisms, wether it be fungal or bacterial, how does it stay ‘alive’ after being putting in a package and dried on a shelf for however long? I know most companies say they use carriers, which supply a home and food for the organisms while in transport. And some may go into stasis or something like that, and come back to life and reproduce once given water or the right environment. Still, it seems these micro organisms only really thrive when in the right conditions, wether it be in rhizoshpere or somewhere else in the soil .
I’d love to get a microscope at some point so I could see and identify some of these creatures that help our ladies along. It’s funny too, that Trichoderma is the mushroom growers nightmare, but great in the soil beds. Really gotta avoid the cross contamination with that one!
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I know if I had the choice between home-made vermi-compost like you’re brewing and a shelf-ready microbe blend I’m picking the vermi-compost every time, no question. Even if the labels were accurate when it comes to microbial claims you’ll get a greater functional diversity in the vermi-compost over a few isolated microbes in my opinion. Yeah Trichoderma is mycoparasitic and I believe exudes enzymes such as Chitinase to consume mycelium which contains chitin. I know MicrobeMan on ICMAG often brought up the idea that bundling Trichoderma with mycorrhizae may be counter-productive, and almost like bundling snakes with mice or something like that. That always seemed like an interesting take to me. Thankfully (or not depending on what you’re culturing) Trichoderma seems fairly ubiquitous anyways as most hobbyist mycologists can attest.
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Yeah, I’ve always wondered that, too, particularly with the ones that need living roots to even survive. BioAg’s inoculant has these, like, little kinda rocks or pebbles in it, I dunno if that helps keep it alive or what they’re for. OG Biowar comes in a pharmaceutical talc, but I don’t know if that’s just a delivery system or if it’s for keeping them alive or what.
Just as an aside, it doesn’t surprise me that OG Biowar doesn’t contain everything it says it contains. I’ve seen Capulator’s posts on IG, he’s kind of a dickhead.
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Officially the talc is just the delivery agent in OG Biowar. I couldn’t tell a difference from using it or not though.
With how Cap treated his “make forums great again” forum as just a way to build a mailing list so he could sell yearly forum subscriptions (with exclusive access to slightly discounted seed packs), I’m pretty much over him.
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Ouch. Not a good look for Cap…
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Well damn, glad I only got the BioAg stuff as samples.
Yeah wtf is up with these ‘breeders’ and egos and shit. I dunno, everyone that I listen to talk about cannabis seems like to try to one up one another. I listened to TheDocta from Archive today on Breeder’s Syndicate, he seems to come off like a dick head too. I mean, shit I’m growing some of his work, but it makes me second guess some stuff. Don’t get me wrong, the Archive stuff is good, on point actually. I guess don’t like all the drama and attitude and ego that surrounds ‘having the best shit’… Bodhi is the only one that I’ve come across that doesn’t seem to come off that way. Maybe a few others, but they’re few and far between.
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BioAg is usually good stuff. OG Biowar from the State of Oregon test @syzygy posted is a different company run by Capulator.
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Ah, thanks for clarifying. Too much ganja for me today 
maybe…
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Haha, yeah, I wasn’t aware of any of that. I just know he makes OG Biowar and that he bred MAC1 (not a fan of that one). I followed him on IG for a while when I first created a profile, but after seeing post after post of ridiculous shit, I stopped.
Yeah, I really don’t wanna know too much about any of these people, which is why I kinda keep my head in the sand.
Except for the thirty times a day I log on to OG haha!
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Not to mention, his forum is mean. People attack other people all the time, and it’s almost encouraged, much like ICMag. You’re either part of the in crowd clique, or you’re a turd everyone’s trying to flush.
I always wonder why people treat weed as a competition. Why treat anything like that? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and who cares how yours compares? Better or worse or just different, does it matter, and how could you objectively measure it anyway? It’s all a scam…
Speaking of scams, keep in mind that, though we’re in 2022, the cannabis industry is functionally no different than in the year 2000. If anything, there’s more scammers, shuysters and snakeoil salesmen.
Don’t believe the hype. Marketing and hype can’t be trusted. It’s only a way to part you from your hard earned pennies.
DIY your seeds, your soil, your IPM, your microbes, your lights, and even your containers if you need big SIPs. 
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