That damn ezclone manifold wont hook to any pump but ezclone. So i got a 880gph pond pump built a better covering manifold than the factory one and it works better now than when it was new for $350
Total cost of manifold build was under $50 including pump.
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its aeroponic. Will be better than basic bubble. Bubble works on same principal. The bubbles throw water particles on roots. Aero just uses jets and directs it better. Constantly misting or spraying roots. Fresh water and o2. I add air bubbler hose to tank just for extra o2 in water so far aeroponic has given me 100% rooting rates. Even the crap cuts root beards.
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And i use no nutrients. Cut on 45 lightly rake bottom inch dip in cloning gel set in collar and forget for a week then start lookin for roots. Ive had 100% on just clean phed water about 6.2.
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This may be the time I have to break down and get a ph meter. Iāve managed great so far without one damn it.
I have a pump that I could use to make a bubble cloner, Iāve been contemplating it.
Use peat pucks. Cheap. Easy. Reliable.
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I have well water at my op, but I donāt ph water for my aerocloners (or anything else) and I usually get ~100% success rates with my cuts. Positive vibesā¦
~nugzz
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I have well water that is hard as stone never had a problem rooting
cutz in a tubbler (aerocloners)
all the best
Dequilo
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Well, I use the term bubble cloner, and aero cloner interchangeably, but I think itās technically an aero cloner. A bubble cloner only uses air stones? 
Damn. What size pump is that? Thereās an 1100 GPH pump on Amazon for $60, and Iād think thatād drive a pretty decent sized manifold.
It can be tricky to get one to fit any pump. Thatās where that fountain kit comes into play. I use 1/2" PVC for my manifolds, and there are several sizes of adapters in there. Youāll find one thatāll match up to your pump.
Theyāre really cheap to build. I had enough spare parts to make the Kitty Cloner, I just needed a pump. I got a 550 GPH off of Amazon for $20.
That Permaclone method is the first thing thatās every worked for me, but there are a many ways to perform an integumentectomy on a feline. A lot of people use water only, some people just put 'em in a glass of water on a windowsill.
God isnāt the internet wonderful. Thanks man, but youād be hard-pressed to find someone more mechanically challenged than me. 
Youāve heard that old adage, āmeasure twice cut onceā? I measure 3 times and still have to cut twice. Itās just that these are really simple to put together it makes me look like Iām on the ball.
Us too. My ppm out of the tap is around 96, which is moderately hard. According to the DEQ guy who tested water, our water has an āobjectionably highā iron content, so we have an ionizing filter that pulls most of it out.
L8R 
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that is me and wood measure 3 times cut once and it still to short
for the life of me if you have an 8 foot board
why canāt you get a 4 footer and 2 - 2 footer?
just saying it is an 8 foot board 4ā +2ā + 2ā = 8ā
I let the misses do that kinda stuff
Dequilo
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I know our tap water ranges from mid 7s to low 8s. Iāve just been using bottled water, to avoid that.
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I probably will next time. I got rapid rooter this time. They are expensive.
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Yes Siree Bob, Jiffy 7 peat pellets, powdered rooting hormone and a humidity dome.
Consistently over 90% successfully take root.
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It was the ezclone 1125 pump for 64 and 128sites. Amazon dont stock it. Third party. Shipping etc. I did like you said. Bought a 880 pond pump for $30 on amazon n home depot the pvc. Already had spare heads for the ezclone
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Thatās impressive 
I actually do own an aerocloner already so Iām gonna try that my next attempt. All my first tries turned to slimy mush. Iāve cut the power si from the diet, itās just working too well to get a stem to clone from. I get 1/2" bamboo shoots in no time using that stuff, Iāll save for the ones going to flower.
The solution in the cloner is my next question. Iām using the bio canna organic line. I have a home made rig with a two stone bubbler and fishtank heater fed with a stealth RO 150. Iām thinking 1/3 h2o2 and then water with bio rhizotonic at 8 ml per gal. PH should be in the 5ās for cloning correct? I donāt use any non organics or GH stuff so Iām not sure of an apples to apples comp.
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That Permaclone recipe is the only thing thatās ever worked for me. They break the cloning solution down into 3 components, an oxidizer, a water-soluble hormone, and mineral nutrients. They list some choices under each one.
Oxidizer
- Sodium Hypochlorite (bleach) : 0.1 - 0.15 mL/gal (2 - 3 drops/gal)|
- Hypochlorous Acid (e.g. UC Roots) : 10 mL/gal|
- 30% Peroxide (e.g. Nutrilife) : 3 mL/gal|
- Peroxyacetic acid (e.g. Zerotol) : 2 mL/gal|
Water-soluble Hormone Solution (only use one of the 3 recommended):
- Hormex Liquid Concentrate : 3 - 5 mL/gal
- KLN Cloning Solution : 5 - 15 mL/gal
- Rhizopon AA Salts : 0.15 g/gal - 0.4 g/gal
Mineral Solution
- Clonex Solution : 20 - 30 mL/gal
- Cutting Edge Solution: 2.5 mL/gal Micro, 5 mL/gal Bloom
- General Hydroponic : 2.5 mL/gal Micro, 5 mL/gal Bloom
H2O2 is organic, I use KLN, and the GH. Iād think if you could find organic products that fit those three categories it should work. I donāt pH the water until I start to see roots, then itās 5.8. Once theyāre out of the cloner, I transplant them into solo cups of a slightly depleted super soil mix.
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Iāve tried everything under the sunā¦ bubble cloner, aero cloner, permaclone recipe, water only recipe.
The only thing that works consistently for me is a rooting cube, cloning gel and a humidity dome. DONT soak your rooting cubes, DONT leave vents open on your dome, DONT let the water go dry, DONT scrape off too much skin on your clone, DONT put them under bright light, DO cut the clones near nodes, DO cut a little down the center of the stem, DO put your clones directly into a water/h2o2 solution immediately, DO use your rooting cubes at the moisture level as received from the manufacturer, DO use a rooting hormone, DO trim off large fan leaves, DO clean your dome regularly with bleach ā¦ and most importantly DONT give up on them until a at least a month has passed. 
Thatās all I got. Iām not very good at it, but trust me if I can do it, anyone can.
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So I got hormex this morning. Figured out the h2o2 math and substituted my rhizotonic for vitamin additives. Used 1/2 oz of clear rez in 2 1/2 gallons of RO water. Iāll update in 5 or 6 days.
I appreciate the help Guitarzan. Thanks 
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So, when cloning with an aero cloner (clone king) i get roots but it takes a lot longer than I want (haha) 10-14 days. Is that nirmal?
Also, tem if water is around 70-80 most days mid to high 70s.
Would making the reservoir water warmer (heating pad) would that help roots grow faster, or rot?
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