First couple months I didn’t really comment much. Then I found out how amazing the peeps at OG are. Can’t stay away now. 
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Yes truly amazing people here for sure. And @dequilo being a snappy person inspires me cause I can be snappy also but cannibis has helped me take the edge off like @dequilo mentioned it helped him also.
Aloha From Hawaii 
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Look at all those beautiful plants!
You are the master!
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I am with you on the Antisocial thing myself 
you folks are the only folks I am social with
and try to be nice and for me it is work
and that is good as we at OG are pretty open folks in the end
all the best and be safe
Dequilo
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that is not a bad thing lots to read here and get up to speed on
and than time to post and post and post
Welcome to OverGrow !!!
something you will need soon
we start at 8 O’clock sharp 
Dequilo
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I hear you My Friend it is something I work on everyday I am very volatile and go from
calm to breathing fire in a split second 
my demons are fierce
I take canna pills that I make with my left overs that help a lot it took a bit to dial in the
dosage but when you get it helps a lot
but at first I was way over doing it and had to stop for three weeks which was not so much
fun for people around me
but I got were I can take them every 4 hours at a lower dose and feel better over all
takes so time to find which strain and how much works but when you do
it is life changing
Nice of to stop and all the best
Dequilo
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hmmm… makes one think how we kill this plant trying to grow it well
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Thank you Sir I do like to grow and I do kill plants mostly from have too many to deal with
and with no plan
I have a hard time throwing out a growing plant and get any plant strong and bugs do not
matter that much
there are lots of plants and lots of bugs outside things work for them
at baiting fish hooks
all the best and enjoy the day
Dequilo
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@HolyAngel quoted you here to not post to much crap else where but would love to have this talk
here
so when you say low light your are talking more so about length of day ? not so much light
intensity correct?
this something I have thought about as long as I have worked with plants and started growing
inside
why 12/12 ? why 18/6? but that is what we run
I have used 14/10 for veg for years and 10/14 for flower and never had a problem yield
I have plants that I have revegged from outside this summer that I started as seeds this time in 2020
so they are a year old
Hash passion over 1 year old this is seed plant
Blue and Black same thing from seed
the were in full blown flower with buds on them and got frosted three times
but still revegged under 14 hours of light
I will say to be honest I did have a problem the first week because I had two CMH running
so way too much red to veg them so I put in a couple of 6600k super blues and off to the
races
so I am not getting why 14 hours of light on a short day plant is a problem as to keeping
them from flowering
as far as light in my room I am right now doing 1 hour of LED at the start and 1 hour at the end
of my light cycle with no HIDs and in a week it will be at 2 hours and 2 hours
I have around 5 weeks I can jerk around do whatever
than on March 12 it is game on for real we are growing lots of weed outside in 2021
I would love to hear folks thought on day length and why
all the best and be safe
Dequilo
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Yes, “low” was referring to length of time the light is on. Now that I think about it, it makes sense. Where we’re at in latitude, veg would be around 14hrs in the summer anyways 
I’ve really only heard of some particular indica’s that will flower with 14 hrs of light but if you haven’t had any happen than maybe that’s a myth 
Your plants don’t look particularly stretchy either.
I’ve been forming a hypothesis that this plant gives longer internode length based on time in the dark.
If I keep the lights at a decent intensity and on 20-24hrs a day, I can keep the plants short, with really short internode’s, like a half inch or less. As soon as I start getting into 8+ hrs of darkness, the plant stretches significantly more, 1-2 inch internodes. Don’t have enough data points yet though to say anything either way.
I flower my photoperiods at 11on/13off without any issues or loss of yield as it just made sense to me.
I think it makes them preflower earlier than it would if it was 12/12. I tend to get preflower hairs at 8-10 days instead of 14-21.
I also feel like some plants don’t quite get 12/12 and need it just a little more dark to really get into the swing of flowering and finishing properly. 10/14 would only ensure that more and likely be more natural, especially for indica’s. I’d suspect they’d be a bit taller than if you did 12/12 or 11/13 but, we need more testing! 
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Oh I’m in there bud! 
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equatorial sativas for one.
Cheers
G
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Very interesting conversation 
Some friends of mine are experimenting with 6/2 light cycle in veg, apparently it does not work well for seedlings,
but works tremendously well in veg.
Last round I experimented with slowly reducing light cycle, 1 plant flowered at 14/10 (Sativa, Chocolope),
but the other did not, so I continued to reduce light hours.
2 weeks,
on the button. Pun intended 
My virgin button, in this experimental grow, flipped to
14/10 - 2 weeks ago.
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so in an effort to cut down on power use
using simple Dequilo logic one can do this by hanging an additional 1000 watts of MH
so simple
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I put that shit on everything!
but seriously I have never seen anything else make a difference so fast. I used it to water my just rooted clones and the leaves doubled in 2 days now I put that shit on everything as directed every two to three weeks. Hydrolized Fish fert every other week or just water with a little supersoil in the bottom of the pot. Love simplicity
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I have been using 11/13 during flower with all my indoor photos 
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when the lights are off your plants is working on repairing cell, growing shoots etc.
when the lights are on the plants is doing other thing making food from water and light etc
why does your plants leaves droop at lights out ?
it takes energy to hold the leaves out to collect light, no light no need to use that energy to hold
the leaves up so droop
I have always given my plants 36 hours of darkness at the start of flowering inside then
start my 10/14 flower cycle
the darkness help to deplete the red enzyme that keep the plants out of flower
but most Sativas flower because of age of plant not so much length of day?
or so I thought
all the best and grow well
Dequilo
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I have read about that a couple of different time very interesting
the light I use are stone age so it is hard to really manipulate the light without lots of user
intervention
I got lots to do now
but I will do the LED thing I am try to cut do my bill at bit just got the bill today and we are
at 330.00 US Dollar a 30 day month
all the best and grow well
Dequilo
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Update 1/24/2021
so yesterday spent most of the day moving plants and stuff around in my grow room
and I have no room 
putting stuff outside the room cannot happen as it is cold in my building about 10 F yesterday
so very things had to move
with everything else what a pain, an 8 foot by 16 foot space may appear to be large to a grower
that grows in a 4 by 4 tent
stuff a lot of plants in any space and it get cramped
So I played Electrician and ran some new wires and put in some outlet also a couple of Amp/Watt
meters to start to control my power better
an spun everything around 180 degrees what a pain I cannot wait to be outside or a bigger
room another 8 foot by 16 foot would work 
these plants moved to this side of the room
Autos and clones
seedlings and clones moved to the other side
clones that will be out of the water this week and gone
very high tech cooling/air movement setup 6 dollar desk fan screwed to the ceiling
Bubba Gum Kush feeling so much better and growing finally
Hash Passion
auto
another
a couple more
so plants have been moved so there is where we are at now
be safe and grow well
Dequilo
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Looking good @dequilo. Can’t wait to see them flower!
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