I’ve got some calcium/silicon mix. I don’t think it’s a shortage in there. I think it’s availability due to low pH. Gonna try and bring them back up slowly over the next few days. Making a water soluble calcium/phosphate is on my list of stuff to do though
Yeah still waiting. I only usually run 4 plants so I only had 4 pots to hand and enough coco to pit one up. So I potted up the struggler early to give it time to recover. It might work I might regret it. As for mixing Coco and soil I haven’t tried but I have read that it isn’t recommend as both buffer differently and both have a different cation exchange. Only one sure fire way to find out though.
Went in with a mild MC feed. Using my calibrated pen adjusted to 6.2
Checked my runoff and that came back at 5.4 not perfect but don’t wanna alter too much too quick and add osmotic shock to my ever extending list of fuckups same thing next feed and I reckon we will be grand
Cheers @Papalag it’s not my best run so far. But I’ll make it alright in the end. I’m about sure I’m gonna let this be the last I use megacrop. Switching out the feed to Buddha’s tree organicus 99%
I ask because I’m also growing in coco but I’m (following recommendation) keeping my pH at 5.8. and some of my plants are clearly not happy about something so that might be it.
No I’m not aiming for 6.2 in Coco. Usually between 5.5 and 5.8 in veg and around the 6 mark for bloom. I’m not gonna pretend I’ve always checked my pH though. I did to start with. And did a couple years rarely checking/amending at all. It’s only because I broke my scales I even dug the pH and ppm meters out this time. And. Forgot to calibrate before use never mind. They always come back around. I’ve been paying far more attention to environment after bud rot last run. Probably time I started paying attention to feed too.
Drop a few pics of your issue. Will see if we can help between us Mate
Just cos it’s going in at 5.8 doesn’t mean that’s where it’s staying either. First thing to check is your runoff pH
In early stages and through veg you wanna be between 5.5-6.0 like @anon58740919 said. Also agree though share your plant pics and somebody will be able to help ya and if I’m honest when I started I never did PH aaand even though I do now I see no difference in taste or yield but still do it just cos habit.
I’ve grown in Coco before but I was feeding them Coco specific nutes and the plants seemed content enough that I didn’t feel the need to get anal about pH and EC.
I’m now giving them head formula, followed to the tee, cause that’s what I have available and keeping pH at 5.8.
I have 4 strains going, all in veg still, they aren’t looking fantastic but not terrible either.
Just one of them looks hungry or so it seems to me. I know the food is there so my guess is pH is probably locking something out.
And no runoff because a colony of fungus gnats decided to seek asilum in my tent so I’m trying to keep the top 3rd of the pots dry, only bottom feeding for the time being.
Lights off right now but I’ll take and post a couple of pictures as soon as they turn on so you can see what I mean.
Sorry for the short reply. I’m currently in in Tesco with the Mrs and son. There’s every possibility your issues are stemming from the top section of your pots being dry?
You’re probably right in that I might be adding to the problem by cutting moisture, but I’m certain that that’s not the cause of it.
I’ve only discovered the gnats and started bottom feeding this week, and the discoloration of the leaves (bottom leaves) has been ongoing for much longer than that.
I don’t think I have managed to dry completely the top 3rd of the pots yet.
I’m gonna go out on a whim here and this would be my thinking if it was my space and same technique. Coco works much better when you use the feed to deliver fresh oxygen into the rhizosphere. And not only that it does dry a lot quicker. If you’re using an inorganic feed. Then chelation is usually done with salts. As your media dries the salts build up. this can cause leaf burn/lockouts. The bottom feed may be adding to the situation by allowing your media to become anaerobic. If you’re leaving your feed at the base of a pot the pH will change over time too. This can definitely play a part. So definitely check the feed at the base if you’re still not gonna top feed. Is there anyway you could have the wick feed circulating? As for the fungus gnats. Get a bottle of deep clean and hit em twice
You English btw mate? Sentence structure seems very…our kind
I don’t allow the pots to stand in the solution for even a minute, just enough to soak up what they need. I go by weight.
I do however worry about it going anaerobic because I’m using bucket budget Coco bricks and the stuff is so fine that has a tendency to compact itself and hold far more water than I’d like it to.
I’m off to check what deep clean is and wick circulating sistems cause you just gave me food for thought
Anyway my light is about to turn on so in a bit I’ll be able to show you my excuse for a veg tent
I’m not English but I lived most of my adult live just a couple hundred miles south of you
I use poundshop Coco blocks too. I think aeration is usually pretty good myself. But it is awful fine stuff. I’ve not actually seen a recirculating wick system myself but there’s no reason it can’t be a thing if it already isn’t deep clean is my go to if there’s anything not pleasant in my media. I’ve took out spider mite using that in the base and trounce on the leaves. (Never trounce in bloom though) and fair enough on the not English but resident of. 200 miles south can only be “that London”
That’s why you confused the crap out of me, I have seen recirculating systems and wick systems but when you mixed both my brain went error 404!
I do want an automated system that I can use with Coco, I’m leaning towards blumat and autopot though.
Clones? Red stems/petioles at such a young age can be an indication of a lockout. To me that looks N deficient visually. Looks as if It’s being pulled from the bottom to feed the top. I’d take my chances top feeding and smash the FG out with pyrethrins both leaf and base. (Trounce and deep clean.) Then carry on as normal. After that a bit of LITFA on the cards I’d say. I wouldn’t be too worried though mate. They look well otherwise. I had a quick look and recirc wicks have been done but it seems more for rooting clones than full runs
They are not clones, all started from seed.
I’m just bonsaing them with a weekly trim and keeping them small untill I have flowered clones from all 4 and choose the best one to keep as a mother.
And they are not so young either, nearly 2 months old!
The only clones I have are from the plant in the bigger pot at the back, and they are doing alright just like the mother. That’s a Berry Bomb by elemental seeds btw.
The finicky ones are big bud!
Lockout! That’s what I thought too, had to be a strain preference pH related thing or else they would all be in the same condition and the other strains are fine, not great lol, but fine.
I should take a page from your book and calibrate my pH pen cause I don’t even know if it’s giving me accurate readings.
Deep clean seems a bit heavy on the pocket, I’d end up paying nearly 40 quid with delivery for 100lm!
Trounce is just a potassium soap solution so I’ll definitely be trying that as you’ve just reminded me I have a DIY recipe for it, that and pyrethrins should do the trick me thinks.
Trounce contains pyrethrins too. Trounce. Deep clean and smart co2 are all my sister’s products mate. If you’re still over this side of the pond id send em free. I’ve bottled bagged and labelled all 3 of those. I even did the graphics for the propa smart co2.
Definitely calibrate your pH pen mate. I feel like a noob fucking up on something so simple but complacency is a bitch and she got me good.
Just had a look at berry bomb and looks like tag me in your thread
In coco I tend to aim for between 5.6 and 6.2. As long as it’s within that ratio I’m happy. Coco is a type of hydroponics after all so you really do need the slight drift to happen to ensure the plants get all the elements available from the nutrients.
Lately in my rdwc grow instead of the ph drifting upwards it’s creeping down so come the weekend I think I’ll dump the rez and reset everything.
Your plants look sweet @anon58740919.
Has that GSC showed it’s face yet mate??
I only looked them up for composition and pricing. They’re your sister’s, how cool is that! No wonder you’re pushing the product! Lol
No I’m not in England any more, moved to Portugal a few years ago. I’m sure I’ll find something with pyrethrins locally or available to purchase online, cheers for the offer anyway
This Berry Bomb is the only thing left from a collection of seeds I lost! Smells great even in veg.
Don’t know how it performs in flower yet but I’m not far from finding it out, been taking clones and should flip the first ones in a week or less.
I haven’t got a thread yet, actually the 1st pics I posted of my plants are the ones in your thread!
I should start one as soon as I light up the flowering tent.
same thing next feed and I reckon we will be grand
never mind. They always come back around. I’ve been paying far more attention to environment after bud rot last run. Probably time I started paying attention to feed too.
tag me in your thread