The 1000 in the products name is also done/intended to mislead people.
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I believe that Pumpkin = Sara on other forums, but IDK for sure., since the communication seems a bit better.
In any caseā¦Epistar diodes are NOT an upgradeā¦and no where could one locate an identifier (like SK bin) for the Mars lights with Samsung chips.
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Hi,Arthur-Mix Mars TS and SP are quantum boards design All specific details on our website is been approved, when you use, you will know 
What is quantum boards ? ? ?
****Quantum boards is a kind of LED grow light, which is a large circuit board that has hundreds of mid-power LEDs mounted to it. The LEDs are connected together in series to form strings, and these strings are then combined in parallel configurations to make them compatible with common high-powered constant current drivers like Mars TS and Mars SP.
What does Surface-Mount Device (SMD) mean ? ?
It is a surface-mount technology. A surface-mount device (SMD) is an electronic device whose components are placed or mounted onto the surface of the printed circuit board (PCB).
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Mars TS1000 is just a name, all specific info are listed on our website, itās public, sharing some understanding will be much appreciated
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Hi, Buzzer777 Pumpkin ā Sara on other forums 
The old SMD chips we used has lens, itās easier to be burnt. Then we upgraded it into this one without lens.
If we use Samsung chips, the price will be much higher than present.
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4 weeks of flower for the Mars hydro ts 1000
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That shows nothing except a surface mount diode picture vs an ordinary diode. The question ISā¦When Mars used Samsung Diodesā¦were they Top Shelf, SK or what. IMO, Epistar doesnāt hold a candle to Samsung, and the price you are getting is HIGHā¦Kingbrite in China sells direct at lower prices with Samsung base diodesā¦Epistar for some far red chips, but the far red is also available in CREE! There are many other vendors that jumped on the HLG knockoff bandwagon too; but my experience of late is with Kingbrite for copy kat boards.
As it goes "quantum board " is something your fellow country people reckon they called , mainly due to be so popular ā¦ So you do mis use quantum boards name as you replied heās they are smd designā¦ Itās ok I if I sell Mars hydro lights here now even if they not is it ? I also like to point out that Mars carried on selling blue diodes even though they knew there was issues , smoke Sara will remeber me ā¦ In the comparison picture you post you say old types dangerous , so you knew dangerous then , yet still sold them ??? That says it all
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Hi @Zoey ,: pumpkin,
why donāt you have a quick giveaway of idk , maybe a couple of fans or a cheap tent/light etc .? The 29th of September is a wee while away plus the winner might not be able to use it ( or not.) for a while, so how will we know how your lights work ok if the winner doesnāt use it straight away or post theyāre grow using it .?
Are you taking into account that you could have to send this light anywhere in the world ( as our members are worldwide also.?!)
Just some ideas to keep people interested pumpkinā¦
Good luck.
Gaz
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Hey pumpkinā¦ Tell me about the smell proof bags.
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4 weeks of flower for the Mars hydro ts 1000
6 weeks of flower for the Mars Hydro Ts 1000
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Hi, Arthur I have answered your first question from our last reply Mars TS and SP are quantum boards design, it is the truth ! !
The chips we used for our blurple light has a lens, the watts of each chip is around 2-3 watts, the overall working temp will be raise up because of a high light output, itās the working temp affect the chips itself to be burnt. When we find this issue, we upgraded our chips into New SMD Epistar without lens next year, longer lifespan and not easy to be burnt.
For plant growth, blue and red spectrum is best light for their growth. If lacks of blue light, they might take a long time to germination.
For our new lights, like SP 250, we have 684 diodes in total with 0.35 watts on per chip, longer lifespan, not easier to burn, and more energy more saved.
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Hi, Gaz29 This is our first giveaway on OG, we hope more people can be involved in this activity, so that, the giveaway period will last 2 weeks long.
For winner, no country limits, we can ship it to anywhere around the world.
If you are in one of our overseas warehouse country, like US,UK,AU,RU,Canada,DE, we will send it to you from our local warehouse directly, no custom duty. If you are from others country, there will be a custom duty covered by you.
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Hi, GrapeApe Check it out 
An Honest Review of the Smell Proof Bag by Mars Hydro
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You have not answered why you kept selling the older lights when 3w diodes and 5w diodes burnt out ā¦ Please answer why you kept sling lights that ended up having scorch marks when the blued burned out ā¦ You lucky there was not a fire ā¦ This is why I never trust you again , let alone the new pic with tape holding the connector together ā¦ Letās see what uk trading standards say , I do you a favour and get one looked at if you like , no problems ā¦ Bet you donāt though
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Same baloney she is spewingā¦just different model lightsā¦BTWā¦To be bluntā¦Epistar diodes are NOT a quality brand. Cree, Oshram, Samsung are QUALITY.
Mars will never change, and has been CALLED out on every board that I either belong to or visit. Too many GOOD brands with QUALITY CS out there to pick this stuff. In THIS classā¦I would recommend Meizhi before Mars. I was thinking about a Mars tent a while back since it LOOKED good. However after considering their performanceā¦I took a pass and bought something else that I trust.
New growers should do their own research and not depend on bought and paid for reviews. (common these days unfortunately).
Checkout Kingbright in Chinaā¦Direct seller of QUALITY products at good prices (they use Samsung 301B and the new 301H diodes + Cree Far Red (or you could choose Epistar far red to get an even lower price. Customer Serviceā¦to die for!
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Are they the ones that done let bullsh1t through? 
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āQuantum Boardsā is not a technical term of engineering art. It is a fictional term, e.g. a tradename, that was developed by HLG to describe their product.
Unless HLG has specifically āapprovedā Mars use of the term on your products or HLG designed the board for you, itās perceived that Mars is copying a popular tradename from a competitor in order to promote the Mars line of products.
Thatās the problem folk have been describing. It confuses consumers and educated consumers will think you are trying to fool them.
Edit: āQuantum Boardā is trademarked by HLG.
FWIW, that could be troublesome. Making it plural doesnāt change a thing.
So, Iām confused when you say itās the truth. When you say āquantum boards designā do you mean HLG actually designed this board for Mars (under contract or something)?
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SO WAIT!!!
You are now Saying the Old diodes are Dangerous and Easy to Burn
So now you are saying my old 1600 is a fire hazard? Now I am worried .
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