Pest management routines

Most insects don’t like peppermint extract so if you have some in your kitchen 4 - 5 drops in a quart sprayer of pro-tect or soap spray will make them want to leave.

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I have stripped a 55galon drum of leaves this week, 3rd week of flower

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@MadScientist would be making a 55 gal drum of cannabis ferment. :grin:

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and that was only one plant

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I notice italics in that statement. Ha! Ha!

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You know it right! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Not the first time I’ve heard of this. I’m going to go buy some peppermint extract tonight. In the meantime the girls are all seperate with a foot between them. Hit them with the bug b Gon again last night, hopefully I don’t notice any worsening this evening. I turned my space heater off and let the room go to 17C during lights off last night but kept room sealed to trap humidity. Hoping that will make things unpleasant for them, but I hope it doesn’t hurt my plants.

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Good luck and be vigilant. :relaxed:

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The only thing they had for me at the grow shop was Bug-b-Gon. It’s an insectisidal soap. I have looked everywhere for neem and the only place that had it was very weak stuff because it’s apparently banned here.

I did see horticultural oil at the local hardware store recently, would this be a preventative treatment? The bug b Gon definitely works but only kills on contact. Even though I was thorough they seemed to come back. I wanna stomp em out before it gets too late. I’m only 8 days into flower so I’m still able to spray bud sites with pretty much anything. I inspect my girls nightly so I caught this very early. Some plants only have one or two affected leaves. A couple have none at all. My worst plant had maybe 10 affected areas. I think I’ll give the peppermint a whirl though because I’ve been told this method for years from growers.

Sorry to derail the thread lol.

I guess they do go hand in hand (stripping leaves/pests) though.

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The problem with just the soap is just that, its a contact killer. It will do nothing to the eggs, so they come back again and again. The oil on the other hand, will smother the eggs. Check out that Mehod-1 PPS. It should do the trick. Oh, and FYI cilantro is considered a mint. Keep up whatever you are doing every three days or so. You need to break the breeding cycle.

Clackamacootz is the king of cilantro sprays. He has been preaching it for years and it works. :grin:

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Yeah, i got into it when i read the ingredients in SM-90. Basically coriander oil. :smiley: any mint works similar, basil, rosemary, lavender, and traditional mints. Where I live they put cilantro in everything, so it’s handy and available.

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method 1 active ingredients are just peppermint oil and rosemary oil, you could add those to your insecticidal soap to make your own version. it also has isopropyl alcohol but not listed as active ingredient. method 1 is also contact killer (it will kill some eggs) and requires repeated spraying to interrupt their life cycle (every 2-3 days or however long before they mature to lay more eggs)

you can also use 1 cup white sugar + 1 cup 3% h2o2 in 1 gallon of water and spray with that. it also will not kill eggs but will kill mites. best bet is to alternate all treatment options every 2-3 days to prevent building resistance. add neem oil to this mixture if you’d like to kill some eggs as well. can order neem on amazon probably?

i’ve also seen people use isopropyl alcohol diluted with water and maybe h2o2 as well

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You forgot the hemp seed oil and lauric acid to emulsify it in Method-1. You could probably use canola oil and lecithin instead. But what ratios should one use? I use it in rotation with my IPM, it smells awesome!

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yes i was just listing the ‘active ingredients’ and soap would act as emulsifier i figured. yes i’ve never used neem but i’ve heard it smells awful and can be a bitch to clean up. method1 smells great. i had no qualms about spraying it 4 weeks in to flower. rather that than smoke thrips

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Good call making this it’s own thread @ryasco :thumbsup:

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Yes thanks for the split!

I would imagine the soap would act as a makeshift emulsifier. Just adding the peppermint to a surfactant would help spread the solution a bit better anyway.

I’ll look into method or neem online as they’re unavailable here. Shipping takes time and money’s tight but I’m trying not to take half measures.

method 1 and neem are available on amazon also method 1s website. personally i think method 1 works better as preventative, you probably want a couple treatment options and alternate them with an infestation otherwise they may just build up a resistance. green cleaner is supposed to be very effective against mites as well. spinosad treatment too (monterey garden spray, captain jacks dead bug brew)

https://www.4hydro.com/green-cleaner

https://growthefficiency.com/product/method-1-pps-16oz/

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Has anyone ever tried Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth for plants in veg.?

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is your question about the grade of the Diatomaceous Earth or D.E in veg?

I use the safer brand in veg.

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