Good point, I cut mine with toasted flour as I collect it. 
{edit} I have a couple packs put away without, for testing purposes⌠
Cheers
G
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Hey Dude I am sorry to hear about this weird acting pollen and I couldnât like the post⌠Iâm glad you and the family are starting to feel better and I hope you have a good week and Happy growing The Doc
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This definitely sounds odd, especially with the eva-dry having been recently recharged. Those little silica packs can only absorb so much moisture too. Maybe there is a lack of airflow around the pollen to assist with the evaporation of the water in that enclosed box? Might it be heaped too densely and in need of being spread out? I have put a small fan in my drying containers to ensure airflow before, and I usually place my pollen on a piece of cardboard or on a paper towel. I see you had the pollen on a piece of paper so I would think that should work the same. I donât think I would put it in plastic bags until its fully dried.
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This is just off the top of my head hereâŚ
Maybe a quick freeze is in order once dry.
I will try and look into this a bit further, maybe I can find a clue to what is happening.
I have little experience with pollen to this point, but it may be time to learn a little more.
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The problem is itâs not getting to the point of being dry or it would not clump up like that. I am just so confused. The tent is at 35% rh, this environment should be good enough to allow the drying process. I donât get why the eva dry is not lowering the RH more. The stuff I packaged was drying for a few days which should be good enough but clearly was not. tonightâs collection is going on top of the light on paper towel. Hopefully being spread out on paper towel will wick some moisture away. Just so weird with the RH being so low.
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Cast iron frying pan on low heat .
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I see, maybe it can not dry out properly cause it is too thick, like a box/bag of buds.
It may need to be spread very thin or at least thinner while drying.
With all that you have, you may need drying racksâŚLOL
Or maybe something that rotates/vibrates and mixes the pollen so it will dry more evenly.
I saw one guy made parchment in the shape of a V and put pollen in it like lines of coke.
Then place it in a box with rice/desiccant.
He also saidâŚ
From here I will put the pollen in a vial, and place the vial back in the box of rice. I will let the vial sit open in the box for 3-5 days before closing the vial and moving it to the freezer.
I think he was trying 5-8 days total.
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flour seem to work well too as others have suggested.
âWe have provided an easy protocol for cryopreservation using desiccation combined with baked wheat flour and subsequent long-term storage of cannabis pollen in liquid nitrogen.â
Do you have any liquid nitrogen laying around?
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I have thought about that. Might be worth a shot.
Read that thread earlier today, thanks. Itâs a good read.
Yeah, my problem has been I have been stuck at home with covid all week and unable to get out to buy any flour 
I am hoping the latest batch will do better. I made a little box out of paper towel, put it on top of my light in the tent so itâs sitting at 34% RH, will see how that does.
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Random thought; maybe take all the stuff not in baggies and dump it through a seive in such a way that it lands on a sheet of parchment paper a little âfluffyâ due to the air mix?
I can only describe it similar to when you sift flour for baking. The power mass has a totally different feel after itâs sifted with the minute air pockets.
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Well here are a couple pics anyway. Did not even manage to feed my plants yesterday, just did not have the energy to make it up to the grow room. They are still alive anyway so thatâs a plus.
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Actually did that but using my pollen shaker. The stuff on the open plate that was clumping is now very dry so who knows, it may be viable. I took all the stuff out of the baggies as well and put it out on a plate in the tent. Will see how it all works out. Going to be pollinating my Grape Punch soon so will know if any of these batches are still viable soon. I still have some hope that the now dry pollen on the plate may still have some life in it. If so I will go back to sending it out but wonât send any of this stuff out before I test to see if itâs still viable. Donât want to waste anybodyâs time.
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You and I have virtually the identical setup, mine works, yours doesnât. The difference is the RH is too high in the box.
Iâll bet you got the large economy pack of those RH temp meters like I did⌠
Hereâs my suggestions:
- Swap the meters in the box with the ones in the tent to confirm they are reading similarly.
- Recharge the desiccant pack and see if that changes the RH
- replace the desiccant pack (final resort)
Cheers
G
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I have well over 50 rh meters, I have swapped them many times while trying to figure this out. They seem to match fine with the bigger and more expensive ones. All I can conclude is that the shear amount I am getting is too damp. I canât seem to get the moisture out of it quick enough with what I have thrown at it. Letâs see if what I got is viable and go from there.
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If you have the parts laying around, make a small pollen drying cab?
Looks like warmed air generated at the base with it being drawn up, through the screens and out the top. After watching this clip Iâm realizing that I have a dehumidifier that with a few small mods involving a computer fan and my mug warmer from lee valley would do the trick! 
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I read on OG that seeds like a cold period (in a fridge for a month?) before trying to germinate. It supposedly improves germ rates and mimics the natural cold Winter âseedâs nap-timeâ before warmer Spring sprouting.
And i like to very gently scuff the seed w 150-200 grit sandpaper. Then float seed in chlorine-free water until it sinks. Then plant directly in soil. (Iâm too clumsy for paper towel method).
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I canât seem to get the moisture out of it quick enough with what I have thrown at it. Letâs see if what I got is viable and go from there.
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I highly suspect, that if moisture was not added back into the pollen it should be viable.
I think it is liquid water that will ruin/kill pollen.
But I donât have the science to back that statement up.
Sounds logical as pollen should survive in high humidity in nature.
Best of luck brother, I suspect you are good here.
Peace
Shag
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Yeah, fingers crossed. I have the pollen in a few batches. Once the pistils are long enough I will start hitting my Grape Punch with different batches and see whatâs what. Time will tell. Thankfully I got those 2 ladies going into flower.
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And the pollen mystery continues but most of all please take the time to get yourself better and I know how much is invested in the run but first you need to be 100% and I canât tell you what to do but will still be more concerned about your own well-being and seeds and plants are able to be grown ago but no replacement for you Brother and same for the family so I hope that you and the family are getting over the damn virus and itâs looking great The Doc
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Yeah, no fever and cough died down so I got pulled back into work today 
Overall I feel like I have been awake for a full week, just got no energy. Going to head home in an hour or so and rest up the rest of the night. Thanks bud.
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