Space Monkey #6 bx1, Face Off bx2 x Sour OG, Cinderella 99 2016 and other

I’m not too familiar with GG #4, but from what I gather the RIL seems like a breeding tool. In this case it would be more stable…but I think herms may be part of the line, so nothing unexpected. Maybe the herms are coming from the Wookie as it is a less worked line. I think Wookie is simply a cross while GG #4 is a strain. My memory is a bit foggy.

I don’t want to get off on a tangent but hermieing could be a product of breeder attitude. Historically breeders, such as this, would make hash out of the crop and breed so seeds in their crop is expected and tollerated. Also the breeding ops would be very large so no one is going around picking off nanners etc. (Huge grow ops, acres and acres :grin::grin:) …well I should say breeding ops, not grow ops.

Again your plants are beautiful :heart_eyes:!

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Kabuddha, Of course, a father with gene germi can detect only a laboratory study, and we only have an assumption … My assumption of GG 4 is only related to the well -known information from the breeder about the accidental creation of this variety as a result of self -sawing! And I agree that the carrier can be a father, and possibly both parents.

I also agree with this, but this applies only to a plant that has such a gene!
“Real Woman” - having a XX chromosome cannot give Nanes as a result of any stress (Grover mistakes, including light at night).
However, as you say, few of the bursers are concerned about this …
I have to tell you that even in my modest work with nuts (which in the future I plan to give to others) I test parents on the germ and the basis of this is not testing the received nuts (although it is necessarily), namely testing of parents!
At the same time, if the plant or its nuts are not planned for the general public, but remains only for my personal use - I treat Herm quite restrained (tolerant). For example, I had test nuts from Subcool’s - GSC X Space Queen, the plant I left for myself as a mother for many years made me hatched, but when I decided to do a cross with her and spent tests “stress with light” the plant showed naers. To say that I was amazed - it’s not to say anything! I have broken dozens of cycles with clones and never saw any symptoms, but the test showed another … For myself, I left my mother and spent a poll for sending nuts, but everyone knew that the mother was germ.
But indeed, it’s an exception to the rules!

Do you write that had experience with RIL, do you mean gg 4 from Tony Green? How is your experience with this plant? What can you tell her?
Honestly, I bought a Space Monkey after I couldn’t get RIL :wink: I wrote Tony and in stores in the US however did not happen, and then I purchased SM and the original GG4 s1 from GG Genetics to get nuts with the maximum genetic pool GG4.

Tony said that this year it would be trading in Europe (as if Pure Sativa), if it happens, I also have plans to meet the pbzyshche with his RIL and not so much from curiosity to GG4 genetics, but more from interest to that the enormous work he did for receiving this cross.

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I haven’t grown tonys RIL, but I had a couple different cuts of gg#4 many years ago and it was great. I think that, and I could be totally off base here, is the RIL is really a breeding tool, ie tony RILd a clone to use as a breeding tool. GG#4 is very strong herb, so I think this is it’s basis, “Use it to improve the strength of your line”.

Again im kinda on a tangent but I think the RIL would pair very well with alot of Bodhi gear. Bodhi also basically creates breeding stock crosses that need to be further worked into heirloom strains. Highly worked RIL for strength plus minimally worked cross for everything else. :grin:

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as they say in my homeland: “trouble does not come alone”!
as a result of yesterday’s inspection of the plants, I found two centers of mold, one on с99, the other on face off x 818, unfortunately, the cone had to be cut
regarding the causes of the appearance of mold, most likely overflow. the fact is that 13 plants are in a very small container of 1.6 liters (the calculator says that it is 1.6L= 0.05650347ft³) and you have to water the plants every day, because if you do it every other day - the soil dries out and lags behind the walls of the pot, the root is damaged.
of the measures taken: a dehumidifier has been installed in the room from which air enters the awning, additional ventilation has been arranged in the middle of the awning, the mode of watering small pots once a day and a half (so that the pot dries out but does not dry out)

three plants face off x 818 (plant number 3 has mold)

for comparison, two photos, one from 11.06, the other from 18.07, what a short time, and what metamorphoses…

изображение

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We go to “autopilot” and go to the finish line, in appearance for a few more weeks and then washing …

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52 days 12/12, cut off all C99 and several SM BX1, could still stand for 10 days, but the main task - the selection of the necessary plant was completed, and an increase of several grams before the crop is not interested. In addition, the tent became almost impossible to serve, the cut plants were in miniature pots (1.6 liters), the last week have had to be watered twice a day (I work from morning till evening, 6 days a week) so small pots For plants, they brought a lot of trouble for me …
Four girls left to pollinate F2, but only one number 2 is more or less suited to continue the genus and will take a place in my house; As for men, I left only one of several (I do not practice open pollinations, as I am not interested in the maximum genetic pool to preserve genetics, but specific characteristics are inherent in a particular plant that I would like to see in volume).

plant #1

plant #2 (top feno)

plant #4 (Also a good plant, has purple inclusions, a week would be multicolored, as a radugue, a good release of resin, the smell of rotten fruits, a sufficiently dense structure, but the bump does not fill enough one on the other and does not create a “bit”, maybe give another sketch of a clone…)

plant #6

Other plants will stand for several weeks.
in the tent has become a little more loose, the awning now looks like this

I also want to show a plant about that has not yet been discussed in this topic, but it has grown from others from the beginning in the tent, it’s Snow Ripper X Chemdogdd
In this Cross Snow Ripper = NL5 & HAZE/4SD#3 X (NL5 & HAZE/4SD#3 X JACK The RIPPER/4SD)
where 4sd = (Chemdog#4 x Sour Diesel)
I used to grow pure Snow Ripper, it was one of the strongest varieties in my practice and even death of old grandfather’s cologne, I loved that plant and that cross, however As if he added the strength of the cross. I decided to throw a couple of nuts as well, unfortunately they were old and had to “dance with a tambourine around”!

And it will take it weeks 11. Next time I will take more photos, you can already get to the plant.

Field Trip

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Almost all SM BX1 plants have rushed and cut today.
SM F2 last fed and this week will stand on the water.
FT, Golosa, Faceoff X 818 I continue to feed on week then also on water, they need more time, up to 10 weeks.

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On 10.08, a partial harvest took place, SM f2 #3 and #6 went to dry

with a fine cone structure #3

and with a large structure (calyx) #6

there are two plants left in the awning in large (comparatively) pots - SM#1 and FT, as well as two small ones - Face off bx2 x Sour OG (top feno, I really liked this particular plant) and Snow Ripper x Sour DD (also a good plant from sour-floral smell).

SM#1

FT

Face off bx2 x Sour OG

Snow Ripper x ChemdogDDf2

some photos from today

everyone have a peaceful sky :sun_with_face:

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Well, this growing cycle has come to an end. Harvest took place on the 70th day of 12/12, i.e. a full 10 weeks of flowering. Field Trip and Snow Ripper x Chem DD could stand for another week, but keeping the tent is too much for them, especially since they got into the “harvest window” - trichomes are milky and amber, there are no transparent ones.

Face off bx2 x SourOG

Snow Ripper x ChemDD

Space Monkey#1 (orig.)

Field Trip (orig.)

all that remains is to dry and weigh the plants, treat the crop and write a smoke report…
conclusions as a whole about the cycle will be later, but about cultivation and some selection can be made now.
as I already mentioned, I left one male plant from each of the varieties (I don’t practice open pollination because I need to know who is the father and what traits can be passed on to the next generation) with traits that, in my humble opinion and my taste, are desired in the future.
as for female plants, everything is a bit more complicated here.
C99 - left 4 plants to obtain f2 and this is why - according to the structure, only two plants have a more or less desired structure, but the smell of all plants is different. for me it is quite strange and I will say frankly in my practice it is the first time when 4 f1 female plants from one pack have absolutely different smells. Therefore, I decided to wait for the end of the treatment stage in the refrigerator for at least a month to determine which of the smells and tastes will be to my liking, and in the meantime, just in case, make f2 from all of them…
SM#6 BX#1 - the two female plants were killed almost immediately after the 12/12 transfer because they showed signs of germy (I’m usually tolerant of germy, especially since the cycle was not for nut production and unwanted pollination could not have occurred, however since I probably have more than 1,000 SM#6 BX#1 nuts, there is no reason to mess with the hermi in this cycle, besides there was no free space in the tent). Of the remaining females, I selected two #3, which has an incredibly sweet smell of duchess pear, and #6, which I call 12 Monkeys - because this is the stickiest plant of the last few years, incredible resin production even for plants like GG4 or her parents - SM. The impression is that she was simply soaked in honey. This is a find for me, the last time I found such a treasure was 7 years ago in a pack of Cheese Quake from SubCool (this mother did not survive the war, froze and I lost her). However, I have crosses with her (Cheese Quake) and it seems even with the father Space Monkey #3, maybe this will be one of the future projects of 12 Monkeys x (Cheese Quake x SM#3).
next Face off BX2 x Sour OG - this is my old cross, about which you probably need to tell in a little more detail. As a mother, the “hard rock” phenotype of Face off BX2 was used - in general, Face off, in my experience, is not at all a commercial cross with a weak structure with small cones and thin branches, but with a super powerful initial high, in my eyes it simply destroyed the consciousness of even heavy smokers . For those with an average level of tolerance, driving usually ended in vomiting and a pale/green-faced couch potato. I had two keepers #1 “hard rock” phenotype had a smaller but firmer, rocky bump and smelled of earth and rotten lemon and #2 “cellar” phenotype as it had the smell of raw cellar earth and a slightly larger bump. As for the parent of Cali Connection’s Sour OG (aka 818), this has also been one of my favorite plants for a very long time, one that I have enjoyed smoking and used in many of my crosses, and I will now explain why. Most breeders look for and use a recessive sire in their crosses to preserve the mother’s characteristics as much as possible, and in the f1 generation, the sire’s traits were not visible, except for a possible increase in resin and size, and sometimes smell. 818, on the other hand, is an insanely dominant sire, 99 times out of 100 in generation f1 the structure will be 818, even in subsequent generations 818 is very reluctant to give up its structure. I once made a Black Chem BX2 cross, conditionally BCBX2 = BC x (BC x (BC x 818)), so 9 plants out of 10 have a structure of 818! that’s how reluctantly this plant gives up its structure. Therefore, you can put several layers on it as a hanger in the closet, but it will remain the same. Or like a skeleton, put on several layers of muscles and skin, and the structure will remain the same.
All other indicators were also at a very high level. As for the effect, 818 had a similar effect to Face off. The beginning was also very powerful and intense, but not so much as to be absolutely devastating (though it also depended on the dose), followed by a long light and active plateau.
Therefore, to put it simply, Face off BX2 x Sour OG is an attempt to add to the structure of Sour OG (which is already a great plant by all accounts) an unappealing, expansive, uncontrollable initial high, which Face off BX2 owns.

be continued…

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Plants look great as always :grin:!! I’m interested in your snowripper cross… Good times!

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Very glad to see you in this branch, it seemed to me that I was “shouting into the void” :wink:
In a few hours I will finish Face Off and start about Snowripper, but when you say it is not my cross …
It is difficult to write with the translator, I very much hope that though it is clear from my writing.

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Hey!! I just gave this thread a read and I love it.

If you ever need help sending things to Ukraine, let me know!

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thank you friend, considering that it is very difficult to buy anything in my area, and shops from abroad rarely ship to me, your suggestion is very important, I will keep it in mind, thank you!
I would also like to say that I will be happy to send you nuts if you are interested in them…
I want to say that my offer is not something for something, but I am happy to share what I have…
in 2020, I conducted a report on another resource and sent about 10,000 of my nuts around the world to everyone (God, how much time and resources it took), but one thought about it made me happy. Then, when I was looking for information about some Bodhi varieties on the Internet, I accidentally came across this forum and immediately on the topic of Seed Runs Co-op, I was very, very surprised and realized that I am not the only one, but somewhere there is a community of thousands living the same as me, and she is happy the same as me… this thought both surprises me to this day and makes me happy!

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I like what you said about the faceoff 818. I’ll message you.

I have had a lot of people help me, so I’ll help you. That way we all help each other

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No worries man, I enjoy reading your thread, especially about the c99. I tend to only check threads when I get a notification so sometimes it takes a bit… You aren’t shouting into the dark :grin:. I too would definitely like to try out your gear.

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glad to hear that, sure we’ll figure out how you can try what you’re interested in… especially if it’s about с99.
most likely, in a few weeks I will make f2, and also pollinate clones of all mother plants with father c99 (I am starting with f2 c99, because now I have 4 female plants and not all of them I would like to keep permanently, after pollination “there will only be one” seems to be the words from the movie “Highlander” ), next will be the pollination of all by the father face off x 818, by then Cherry Queen should be adults, maybe one of them will join if they are worth our attention… I would give away some got community nuts but to be honest i don’t fully understand how it works here even though i already participate in some Seed Runs Co-op hahaha…lol

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Its fairly straightforward. Strain preservation runs are what goes in the co-op boxes. Everything else (not preservation) is up to the grower to distribute. It would be nice if there was a distributor for non co-op runs. I reckon there could be a lot more beans going around if there were…

Yeah I’m a big fan of c99; used to smoke a ton of dry sift hash of it back in the day. Would like to start smoking alot of it again…

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that’s what I’m talking about… the fact is that I physically will not be able to safely send envelopes to everyone, it would attract attention even in peacetime (I already have the experience of sending a great number of envelopes, although nuts are not prohibited by law in my country however, there is nothing to pay too much attention to in this matter) but let’s say sending, for example, a thousand (or several thousand) gorigs at a time would not be a problem.
these are my thoughts on this matter.

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continuation of messages No. 38
Yes, in the Cross of Face Off Bx2 x 818, I wanted to combine better than both parents, despite the fact that there was a real opportunity with the help of a non -standard solution with the use of the dominant traits of the father to remove the unwavering features of the mother in the offspring and to do so in the first generation of F1. … For example, I am sure that there will be a Face Off Bx2, who will say that this structure is optimal, or even the best for their cultivation technique, and in their conditions, and their tastes will really be the case. However, it will remain for me - a disadvantage]
From the plants that I have grown in this cycle, I can conclude that the part of the task I set creating this cross about the structure was successfully executed. All plants were the same, and the height was different, in another structure of plants is completely the same and in general more than satisfactory. I will agree with anyone who will say that for full conclusions there was not enough plants and it would be necessary to drive at least a few tens and in different conditions, this is really the case, but this is enough for me to make preliminary conclusions about success or not tasks that They were set when creating. If further tests show acceptable results for identifying the best candidates with better features, you can make a Sog test race with dozens of nuts and select the best candidates. Now, the clones of three girls have already moved to the awning for flowering, the other day they will be transplanted into 40 liter pots and will go to flowering again. In the meantime, I will wait at least 10 days for 10 days until the first test cones will finish treatment in the refrigerator and make a full -fledged smokeport.
Slightly going to say that I had already tried unripe cones, after about 7 weeks of flowering, it is possible less (you can look in the branch) when I found the cells of the mold and removed them.
A part of the cut cone that was clean and dried up in a box for several weeks, I forgot about it, and remembered it in the night almost before bedt her. I do not know why I decided to check her. I honestly did not expect much at that moment. She was not more than 3 weeks, and I smoked the turkey twice in the evening, I would just try … After a few hits, I realized that I made a mistake. In a few minutes, the body and brain returned to the tone interrupted by a strong relaxing effect of Space monkey, and after a few minutes the body tensed, and Brainstorm began in the head! It is a tremendous stimulation of the nervous system, as an armor -piercing projectile breaks everything, both fatigue, and late time, and previous smoking. She doesn’t care, she just does her job in spite of nothing. I mentioned the bed in almost two hours and probably couldn’t reassure the onset of thought in my head and fall asleep.
This is not a Smook Report, it’s just a small previous experience that I had. But it is quite intriguing and promising.
Okay, I will return to this cross after full testing.

best wishes!

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I would be more than willing to redistribute seeds – charge like $5 s&s. Would need to make sure I can securely receive them first; wouldn’t want to lose bulk seeds to the mailer demon :wink:.

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