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Hi to all!
Awning news.
All plants were identified by sex.
Two boys c99 (I’ll leave one later), one boy SM # 6 BX1 and Face OFF bx2 set aside in another place, cut off the excess (left two floors on the lower branches) and again switched to vegetation mode.
these two guys c99 smelled the strongest, so I left both, but now I understand that I will leave the taller (usually do not use the tallest plant) but this time I will make an exception, because the smaller plant with all the same parameters except growth, has a common mutation “marble leaf” … from my observations, it can be passed on to future generations, so for f2 and crosses it will remain higher.
“marble leaf”:
in the photo below - girls c99, plants from nuts, but now they look like clones - almost the same
I don’t like this structure of the plant very much, after pruning the lower floor still develops poorly, but in SM (both the original and in bx and f2) the lower branches catch up with the central ones, I like it more (I’ll show their photos next time).
In addition, you remember that these plants are in very small containers, and are already asked to eat, so I almost do not feed them, so I try to keep the “shot up”, for the same purpose I keep the lamp as low as possible to the plants to “suppress plant the light”.
And this is a photo of Golosa from Delicious Seeds, it is in a slightly larger container
the structure is different, I like it more, but this parameter is not decisive, although not insignificant …
these photos were taken on 14.06, will be shown later …
More or less aligned the plants in height …
Because most plants showed the pink colors of the cutters, gave them a little phosphorus with potassium.
In the center of Face Off Bx2 X Sour Og, with the biggest paws, lower them down when they get enough
New photos, 16 days from the moment of switching to 12/12, and Field Trip is already giving a resin!
p.s. Far red in action
A somewhat strange situation, several plants Space Monkey #6 Bx1 - Hermy. None of the parents showed such a tendency, in any of the generations, very strange.
Space monkey #1 (original), Space Monkey F 2 #3 and #6 and #6 are also growing with them in the awning, and they do not have any signs of Hermy, namely BX1 on most plants, on the lower floors of bananas …
We know that GG #4 by nature Hermma, but why in generations F1 SM (Gorilla Glue 4 x Wookie #15), F2 SM X SM this sign was recessive, but already in SM P1 x SM F2 - (BX1). became dominant.
Your plants look great! Very clean setup you got there. What kinda of nutes are you running?
Couldn’t tell you why some are hermieing though…you said the previous generation hermied? Indicates that hermieing is not a recessive sex linked trait…
in this cycle all plants from regular nuts except golosa are fem.
C99 from Brothers Grimm - original, all others are my own…
regarding the recessiveness and dominance of the germ trait, made such a conclusion because the original nuts did not have germ, f2 also did not have germ, and the third generation - bx turned out to be from germ.
bx1 = sm#6 x (sm#6 x sm#3)
i.e., no gene was added to the initial pool of sm genes in the process of crosses, which makes it possible to assert that the hermi gene was initially present in the cross, but did not manifest itself…
however, the breeders who created GG4 themselves claim that it is the result of self-pollination
therefore, for now, these are the conclusions, and what do you think?
Another news issue:
field trip
Space Monkey bx1 & f2 #3
Cindy99 (2016)
only one foto Face off (hard rock feno) x Sour OG (818)
and family photo
a peaceful sky to all 
I’m not too familiar with GG #4, but from what I gather the RIL seems like a breeding tool. In this case it would be more stable…but I think herms may be part of the line, so nothing unexpected. Maybe the herms are coming from the Wookie as it is a less worked line. I think Wookie is simply a cross while GG #4 is a strain. My memory is a bit foggy.
I don’t want to get off on a tangent but hermieing could be a product of breeder attitude. Historically breeders, such as this, would make hash out of the crop and breed so seeds in their crop is expected and tollerated. Also the breeding ops would be very large so no one is going around picking off nanners etc. (Huge grow ops, acres and acres 
) …well I should say breeding ops, not grow ops.
Again your plants are beautiful 
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Kabuddha, Of course, a father with gene germi can detect only a laboratory study, and we only have an assumption … My assumption of GG 4 is only related to the well -known information from the breeder about the accidental creation of this variety as a result of self -sawing! And I agree that the carrier can be a father, and possibly both parents.
I also agree with this, but this applies only to a plant that has such a gene!
“Real Woman” - having a XX chromosome cannot give Nanes as a result of any stress (Grover mistakes, including light at night).
However, as you say, few of the bursers are concerned about this …
I have to tell you that even in my modest work with nuts (which in the future I plan to give to others) I test parents on the germ and the basis of this is not testing the received nuts (although it is necessarily), namely testing of parents!
At the same time, if the plant or its nuts are not planned for the general public, but remains only for my personal use - I treat Herm quite restrained (tolerant). For example, I had test nuts from Subcool’s - GSC X Space Queen, the plant I left for myself as a mother for many years made me hatched, but when I decided to do a cross with her and spent tests “stress with light” the plant showed naers. To say that I was amazed - it’s not to say anything! I have broken dozens of cycles with clones and never saw any symptoms, but the test showed another … For myself, I left my mother and spent a poll for sending nuts, but everyone knew that the mother was germ.
But indeed, it’s an exception to the rules!
Do you write that had experience with RIL, do you mean gg 4 from Tony Green? How is your experience with this plant? What can you tell her?
Honestly, I bought a Space Monkey after I couldn’t get RIL I wrote Tony and in stores in the US however did not happen, and then I purchased SM and the original GG4 s1 from GG Genetics to get nuts with the maximum genetic pool GG4.
Tony said that this year it would be trading in Europe (as if Pure Sativa), if it happens, I also have plans to meet the pbzyshche with his RIL and not so much from curiosity to GG4 genetics, but more from interest to that the enormous work he did for receiving this cross.
I haven’t grown tonys RIL, but I had a couple different cuts of gg#4 many years ago and it was great. I think that, and I could be totally off base here, is the RIL is really a breeding tool, ie tony RILd a clone to use as a breeding tool. GG#4 is very strong herb, so I think this is it’s basis, “Use it to improve the strength of your line”.
Again im kinda on a tangent but I think the RIL would pair very well with alot of Bodhi gear. Bodhi also basically creates breeding stock crosses that need to be further worked into heirloom strains. Highly worked RIL for strength plus minimally worked cross for everything else.
as they say in my homeland: “trouble does not come alone”!
as a result of yesterday’s inspection of the plants, I found two centers of mold, one on с99, the other on face off x 818, unfortunately, the cone had to be cut
regarding the causes of the appearance of mold, most likely overflow. the fact is that 13 plants are in a very small container of 1.6 liters (the calculator says that it is 1.6L= 0.05650347ft³) and you have to water the plants every day, because if you do it every other day - the soil dries out and lags behind the walls of the pot, the root is damaged.
of the measures taken: a dehumidifier has been installed in the room from which air enters the awning, additional ventilation has been arranged in the middle of the awning, the mode of watering small pots once a day and a half (so that the pot dries out but does not dry out)
three plants face off x 818 (plant number 3 has mold)
for comparison, two photos, one from 11.06, the other from 18.07, what a short time, and what metamorphoses…
We go to “autopilot” and go to the finish line, in appearance for a few more weeks and then washing …
52 days 12/12, cut off all C99 and several SM BX1, could still stand for 10 days, but the main task - the selection of the necessary plant was completed, and an increase of several grams before the crop is not interested. In addition, the tent became almost impossible to serve, the cut plants were in miniature pots (1.6 liters), the last week have had to be watered twice a day (I work from morning till evening, 6 days a week) so small pots For plants, they brought a lot of trouble for me …
Four girls left to pollinate F2, but only one number 2 is more or less suited to continue the genus and will take a place in my house; As for men, I left only one of several (I do not practice open pollinations, as I am not interested in the maximum genetic pool to preserve genetics, but specific characteristics are inherent in a particular plant that I would like to see in volume).
plant #1
plant #2 (top feno)
plant #4 (Also a good plant, has purple inclusions, a week would be multicolored, as a radugue, a good release of resin, the smell of rotten fruits, a sufficiently dense structure, but the bump does not fill enough one on the other and does not create a “bit”, maybe give another sketch of a clone…)
plant #6
Other plants will stand for several weeks.
in the tent has become a little more loose, the awning now looks like this
I also want to show a plant about that has not yet been discussed in this topic, but it has grown from others from the beginning in the tent, it’s Snow Ripper X Chemdogdd
In this Cross Snow Ripper = NL5 & HAZE/4SD#3 X (NL5 & HAZE/4SD#3 X JACK The RIPPER/4SD)
where 4sd = (Chemdog#4 x Sour Diesel)
I used to grow pure Snow Ripper, it was one of the strongest varieties in my practice and even death of old grandfather’s cologne, I loved that plant and that cross, however As if he added the strength of the cross. I decided to throw a couple of nuts as well, unfortunately they were old and had to “dance with a tambourine around”!
And it will take it weeks 11. Next time I will take more photos, you can already get to the plant.
Field Trip
Almost all SM BX1 plants have rushed and cut today.
SM F2 last fed and this week will stand on the water.
FT, Golosa, Faceoff X 818 I continue to feed on week then also on water, they need more time, up to 10 weeks.
On 10.08, a partial harvest took place, SM f2 #3 and #6 went to dry
with a fine cone structure #3
and with a large structure (calyx) #6
there are two plants left in the awning in large (comparatively) pots - SM#1 and FT, as well as two small ones - Face off bx2 x Sour OG (top feno, I really liked this particular plant) and Snow Ripper x Sour DD (also a good plant from sour-floral smell).
SM#1
FT
Face off bx2 x Sour OG
Snow Ripper x ChemdogDDf2
some photos from today
everyone have a peaceful sky
Well, this growing cycle has come to an end. Harvest took place on the 70th day of 12/12, i.e. a full 10 weeks of flowering. Field Trip and Snow Ripper x Chem DD could stand for another week, but keeping the tent is too much for them, especially since they got into the “harvest window” - trichomes are milky and amber, there are no transparent ones.
Face off bx2 x SourOG
Snow Ripper x ChemDD
Space Monkey#1 (orig.)
Field Trip (orig.)
all that remains is to dry and weigh the plants, treat the crop and write a smoke report…
conclusions as a whole about the cycle will be later, but about cultivation and some selection can be made now.
as I already mentioned, I left one male plant from each of the varieties (I don’t practice open pollination because I need to know who is the father and what traits can be passed on to the next generation) with traits that, in my humble opinion and my taste, are desired in the future.
as for female plants, everything is a bit more complicated here.
C99 - left 4 plants to obtain f2 and this is why - according to the structure, only two plants have a more or less desired structure, but the smell of all plants is different. for me it is quite strange and I will say frankly in my practice it is the first time when 4 f1 female plants from one pack have absolutely different smells. Therefore, I decided to wait for the end of the treatment stage in the refrigerator for at least a month to determine which of the smells and tastes will be to my liking, and in the meantime, just in case, make f2 from all of them…
SM#6 BX#1 - the two female plants were killed almost immediately after the 12/12 transfer because they showed signs of germy (I’m usually tolerant of germy, especially since the cycle was not for nut production and unwanted pollination could not have occurred, however since I probably have more than 1,000 SM#6 BX#1 nuts, there is no reason to mess with the hermi in this cycle, besides there was no free space in the tent). Of the remaining females, I selected two #3, which has an incredibly sweet smell of duchess pear, and #6, which I call 12 Monkeys - because this is the stickiest plant of the last few years, incredible resin production even for plants like GG4 or her parents - SM. The impression is that she was simply soaked in honey. This is a find for me, the last time I found such a treasure was 7 years ago in a pack of Cheese Quake from SubCool (this mother did not survive the war, froze and I lost her). However, I have crosses with her (Cheese Quake) and it seems even with the father Space Monkey #3, maybe this will be one of the future projects of 12 Monkeys x (Cheese Quake x SM#3).
next Face off BX2 x Sour OG - this is my old cross, about which you probably need to tell in a little more detail. As a mother, the “hard rock” phenotype of Face off BX2 was used - in general, Face off, in my experience, is not at all a commercial cross with a weak structure with small cones and thin branches, but with a super powerful initial high, in my eyes it simply destroyed the consciousness of even heavy smokers . For those with an average level of tolerance, driving usually ended in vomiting and a pale/green-faced couch potato. I had two keepers #1 “hard rock” phenotype had a smaller but firmer, rocky bump and smelled of earth and rotten lemon and #2 “cellar” phenotype as it had the smell of raw cellar earth and a slightly larger bump. As for the parent of Cali Connection’s Sour OG (aka 818), this has also been one of my favorite plants for a very long time, one that I have enjoyed smoking and used in many of my crosses, and I will now explain why. Most breeders look for and use a recessive sire in their crosses to preserve the mother’s characteristics as much as possible, and in the f1 generation, the sire’s traits were not visible, except for a possible increase in resin and size, and sometimes smell. 818, on the other hand, is an insanely dominant sire, 99 times out of 100 in generation f1 the structure will be 818, even in subsequent generations 818 is very reluctant to give up its structure. I once made a Black Chem BX2 cross, conditionally BCBX2 = BC x (BC x (BC x 818)), so 9 plants out of 10 have a structure of 818! that’s how reluctantly this plant gives up its structure. Therefore, you can put several layers on it as a hanger in the closet, but it will remain the same. Or like a skeleton, put on several layers of muscles and skin, and the structure will remain the same.
All other indicators were also at a very high level. As for the effect, 818 had a similar effect to Face off. The beginning was also very powerful and intense, but not so much as to be absolutely devastating (though it also depended on the dose), followed by a long light and active plateau.
Therefore, to put it simply, Face off BX2 x Sour OG is an attempt to add to the structure of Sour OG (which is already a great plant by all accounts) an unappealing, expansive, uncontrollable initial high, which Face off BX2 owns.
be continued…
Plants look great as always !! I’m interested in your snowripper cross… Good times!
Very glad to see you in this branch, it seemed to me that I was “shouting into the void”
In a few hours I will finish Face Off and start about Snowripper, but when you say it is not my cross …
It is difficult to write with the translator, I very much hope that though it is clear from my writing.
