The Central American landrace and heirloom thread (Part 2)

[GREANDAL]

@Panamajock

Punta Roja ( red point) the same.

I have noticed that myself. They really prefer hot and humid.

[GREANDAL]

Beautiful plant! 🪴

[lefthandseeds]

@Upstate

will flower 26-32 weeks

Wow, that’s gotta be the longest I’ve ever heard of. Meanwhile I’m over here growing 6 week varieties and checking my watch every 5 minutes.

[Panamajock]

Ye the same.
Red point.
Punta Roja
And Panama red.

Panama only existed as a province of Colombia till 1903

The Central American landrace and heirloom thread (Part 1)

Last Week we here had parades, Panamas independence from Colombia. 03/ 11/1903 It was part of Nuevo Granada….Simon Bolivar It formed part of the division…from Colombia. The Spanish built there forts in Cartagena to Portobello… A route was made …de Camino de Ora …to transfer the gold etc they stole from Peru, Chile etc . Great fortifications till Hendry Morgan wiped those two forts out and sacked them. [image] …Nowadays it’s a smuggling route for Immigrants…and I’m sure other smuggling …

P J

[Panamajock]

Whaa….that be some kind of record.

Probably a miss print

Regards

P J

[romanoweed]

@Upstate

That’s how we know it’s a hybrid.

well, i dont… dont dicdate what i knoiw.

[romanoweed]

i googled humidity in panama.
least humid is March 40 percent
most humid is Nov. 78 Percent…

so, i guess for a realistic imitation of Panama youre not quiet right with 90 percent , and air circulation? anyway

i mean the month youre approximately imitating might be october ? (wich floweringtime do they have?)… if that the case, probably 70 percent would be accurate… (i mean who nows wich part of panama they came from anyway.? probably some places are dryer?

anyway

[Panamajock]

Ye

But I did say …and that goes for anywhere…

But there is always fluctuations in the weather.

Thanks

[romanoweed]

so then what is the average moisture, you tell me… i just asked google. probably you can make more precise statement.

[romanoweed]

ok, i googled again, i either missread humidity for march, its 56 percent… but i think were more interested in the november…

[Panamajock]

Maybe this site can help you out.

Panama: Weather, Seasons & Regional Climate Zones

I’m only a grower …as I said weather ,especially with global warming fluctuates.

And there is micro-climates as well …to contend with.

P J

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[romanoweed]

basically not interfering with what i said i think…(after the correction).

100 percent in some places it says. not every place… so… like i said…average humidity peaks in nov. around 78percent.

[Upstate]

Playing taps for the " third" sister. Started finding male flowers in the buds…and if that wasn’t enough, I couldn’t find the plant a few days ago, and it was left out in our long days again. She/he is stewing in a bucket to be fed to her sisters.

Tough to kill that beauty.
Happy 6 of 7 female plants and 4 males are stable from Old Silversides, a slight hermie. Hope it stays that way. Experiments are always risky. For Silversides, I’ll put up with almost anything to produce a line descended from her.
Outta likes…again lol

[Upstate]

@lefthandseeds

Wow, that’s gotta be the longest I’ve ever heard of. Meanwhile I’m over here growing 6 week varieties and checking my watch every 5 minutes.

I’m checking mine every 4 minutes​:rofl:. I’m at week 20 now. I have AT LEAST 8 weeks with the fast one. Could go 35 weeks with the long one.
I sure hope it’s good! I was told it’s worth growing by the guy @romanoweed convinced to shake the dust off the seeds and run it to make a few fresh ones.

Oaxaca / Peshawar showing the Silversides lineage. Looks just like Oaxaca, but more fanning out at the bud sites.
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[drgreensleeves]

@Upstate

She/he is stewing in a bucket to be fed to her sisters.

This is the best fertilizer that money can’t buy ! It’s that good ! It’s so good that you wouldn’t need anything else for real it’s my favorite

@Upstate

For Silversides, I’ll put up with almost anything to produce a line descended from her.

And I would love a chance at some of old silver sides seeds ! I’ve been reading this thread and man! That thing is amazing and I would love to try her smoke holy cow that’s what I call a hash plant!

[Fat_Man]

Hola hombres !!! In Mexico to day hope this counts .

Melon ( Cantaloupe) agua fresca from Acuńa Mx

Salute Amigos!

[Upstate]

She’s really potent. I finally smoked a bud that hadn’t seen rain. 2 in fact. Both were microwaved., and man, it still rattled my cage. Epic smoke.
Then, the next day, that plant ( minisides) was pummeled by a thunderstorm . What can you do? That’s the price you pay for using time growing plants that could have been spent building a greenhouse. @GREANDAL, how are you liking yours? The sativas must appreciate the extra heat.

[Upstate]

Just melon juice? Or some tequila found its way in there? Either way, sounds great!

[Fat_Man]

Haha I just juice this time !! I’ve got the family with me this trip!

About to go drink a few tecates though I’ll let my wife drive us back this evening!

[Upstate]

@Panamajock

But there is always fluctuations in the weather.

Thanks

Mts are often wetter. You live up high, right? Plenty of microclimate in mts. Do you know of any dry areas? Panama Red was grown on the Pearl Islands. We have over 50 inches a year in NY on average from 1980- 2010. Today is wetter most recent years. Always more rain in the hills in wooded areas of earth, compared to the lowlands below.

This was surprising to me.

@romanoweed

, i guess for a realistic imitation of Panama youre not quiet right with 90 percent , and air circulation? anyway

No, not quite right for Panama.
I agree with @Panamajock
Punta Roja, red point and original Panama red are all the same landrace basically, just grown at different altitudes.
I’m heavily or fully leaning towards a conclusion that the Panama Red everyone talked about, the 60’s and 70’s weed, is a hybrid. When it was created, I couldn’t say. I’d love to see how it does in Panama @Panamajock. Colombian Red, the sleepy/ narcotic one, may be the same or a similar mix. It would becPunta Roja × whatever Panama Red was mixed with, most likely, given their close proximity to each other. The speedy Panama Red may have been the original landrace. The one I have does not seem at all landrace. But it’s going to be great pot! And it’s what I’ve been looking for😁 I didn’t know I was seeking a hybrid.
This means Ace seeds could have pulled the Indica side out of theirs, without themselves adding any. I do know for sure that one line they used was contaminated…but so’s the original.
My small Panama plants, 3 of them, are maybe 16 inches tall. Does this sound like a Jungle Sativa to anyone? Tall ones are 24-30 inches. Almost no stretch.