What happens when I never change the rez? Also PH not drifting quick enough?

when foliar feeding, can I overfeed? E.g. If I would feed the epsom salts three days in a row??? Something adverse could happen?

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You sure can big time and it’s real easy to burn them this way. Just go easy on nute strength, you will get a pretty rapid response from foliar feeding so it may pay to be sparing on how often you use it to start with just to see what the plant does, any burn will show up nearly immediately.
Epsom Salts, i.e Magnesium Sulphate is much better absorbed through foliar feeding than via roots, particularly where elevated levels of potassium can interfere with it’s uptake via root/soil application… It plays an important role in the production of chlorophyll so one of the symptoms of deficiency is leaf sclerosis… i.e yellowing… When I apply it with via foliar feed I apply it at 10 day intervals at a strength of 3% w/v i.e 1% w/v is equal to 1 kg/100L.

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A larger res would allow you to go longer between res changes. Personally I can barely fathom that large a res.

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what you mean “IS”? :smiley:

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with a big res the imbalances of nutrient build up get blanced out by the volume?

When you keep your ph always between 5.5 and 5.8, what nutrients you use? Are you foliar feeding epsom salts also?

What nutrients do you use and what medium? What range you keep the ph? Are you always foliar feeding at 10 day intervals?

Typically I use Maxi Bloom @ 1.94 grams per liter in a RDWC system, but I also use the same mix with coco/perlite.
I also add Fulvic Acid and a kelp tri-mix of 3 different varieties of kelp as well as mychoriza. In veg I add some calcium nitrate at .8 grams per liter give or take depending on what the plant does. In my current grow however I am using a cheap ass 2 part dry powder hydro mix I got from the hardware store for $8 after first running it’s ratio of ingredients through Hydrobuddy and discovering it has everything the plant needed. Plants haven’t invented a need for mega flashy and expensive nutrients, self interested commercial sharks have.
Personally I prefer being able to dish out the nitrogen separate so I can tweak the amounts, same goes for the rest of the nutrients… Ph baseline is about 5.8, but when adjusting I typically drop it to 5.6 and then let it creep up to 6.2… but I am a long way from obsessive about it :slight_smile: some plants seem to be able to take stupid variations in Ph… some seem a LOT more sensitive.

Hydrobuddy link

https://scienceinhydroponics.com/2016/03/the-first-free-hydroponic-nutrient-calculator-program-o.html

No… rarely really and mostly if/when I have an issue that is being difficult to remedy or on the very rare occasion root rot turns up and think might be recoverable… which is hardly ever. I basically use foliar feeds as life support lol. If you have the motivation you can get significant growth improvement via a foliar feeding regimen, but you are mostly limited to veg and maybe a few weeks into flower… after that it gets a little risky rot wise to be wetting the flowers… at least in the climate here.

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Means you were correct 1st guess

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GHE basic 3part - I don’t use much epsom at all, some strains like a bit extra sure.

I folia feed with biobizz fish-mix as the only other thing I use, beside GHE Gro, micro and bloom.
You should take a look at my thread “The LED hack shack and other tall tales”

It’s faily long and a lot of me building shit, but there is also a bunch about my hydro.
Pictures and notes on Ec and pH, on the given time of flowering.

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Thank you for the hydrobuddy!

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This morning I sprayed the plants with epsom salts (teaspoon per gallon). It was lights out… I didn’t want to burn the leaves in the light… But now I read that when you spray in the dark the stomata will be closed… :-/

It seems like the yellowing goes from the lower leaves to the more upward leaves… I dont like that kind of progression…

So it can only be magnesium or nitrogen deficiency…I guess :wink:

What can I expect to see with foliar feeding if there was a deficiency? Will yellow leaves go green again or just green leaves will not turn yellow?

I am a bit unsure how to proceed now…

If I have salt build up or lockouts, can I just change the res or do I need to flush with plain water? I have not enough plain water available to flush…(But I have flora kleen around?)

Can I addtionally foliar feed half the nutrient strength of my nutrients everyday, so the plants will be independent of the issue in the medium?

Btw how can I get a Nitrogen deficiency with lucas formula in 3rd week of flower? What would lock Nitrogen out?

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Your pH is out of ballance, is the most likely answer to that question.

Change your res, lower your pH to 5.5 and see if they won’t peak up.

Maybe post a picture, would make it a lot easier if we could see the plants.

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He’s been asked on several occasions to upload a photo but he’s afraid his personal data will be available.
If he doesn’t trust how the site works he can run his photos through an app to remove the sensitive information before hand


That will do the job :v:

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Yeah a picture is worth a thousand words in this situation. SO much depends on guess work otherwise… there could be any number of things… the extent of yellow leaves being one… It’s not at all uncommon for some of the lower leave to yellow out even early in flower, as mine get crowed the lower ones get less light and they yellow for example. It’s could be no big deal … you might be adding this and that for no reason at all for example… you could even be causing problems for yourself…

@Palindrome has the good advice, dump the res, start fresh and set the pH as recommended. Give those roots a good dose of mychoriza… And most of all Don’t Panic :grin:

The thing to remember is that tap water with the lucas formula and nothing else has been used for countless DWC grows, it is reliable and deficiencies should be exceptionally rare. You really shouldn’t need to be adding additional nutrients.

When I have had issues it’s always b/c my res was too small and I got lazy with change over or I allowed pH get out of hand, so it pays t o make sure you pH tester is calibrated properly and regularly.

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I try send a picture soon. But I am very busy right now.

I think it main reason is probably temperature drop. Its getting too cold outside for running with external air. Plants stalled. Couple of hours in early morning when lights off (4 am) plants get very low temperatures. Last night outside was 3 degree celsius… When lights on max is now 20 degree celsius.

So I need fix temperature.

Thing is I can do it sealed but my dehumidifier has trouble.

I have running four ebb and flood tables with total 100 to 150 rockwool cubes (2,5 inch).

I think open tables with that amount of cubes and the flooding release too much humidity into the air.

My thinking is that when I can put a cover on the tables a lot humdity will stay there.

Today I tried strech foil. But it didn’t work. It not sticked to the edges, also when cutting holes into it to put the cubes through, the foil shrinked too much instead of covering the cubes.

I am thinking now about covering the tables with aluminium foil. Maybe that is rigid enough to form it, and easy to set up and to put the plants through it.

Or maybe something like a rescue blanket, or a truck canvas???

Can you recommend me a material for ebb and flood tables as cover with many small plants, which is easy to set up?

White trash bags and some sticky tape.
A sheet of painters disposable 'drop sheet with ‘x’ holes cut for plant stems.
Panda film and pegs or clamps.
Polycarbonate with holes drilled or strips that sit across the tables between the plants.

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Is it worth buy panda film for such endeavour? I never used pandafilm so far and dont have it around. I think pandafilm is sticky on one side? Will the sticky side cause me problems?

I was thinking about the polycarbonate but still I have not dialed in the final plant count for the tables.

So I need a foil or canvas that covers enough area and doesn’t crumble when i cut an X into it.

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Panda film is not sticky but black on one side and white the other.

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I will try garden tarpaulin and rescue blanket. Both has size enough to cover the full table. Especially the tarpaulin has a mesh enwrought. Maybe that makes it easy to cut the many holes.

Also I did find some clamps for tablecloth…

I will see how that goes.