What kind of scents/aromas you pickin up off her?
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That looks like nice Haze…
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I’m not very experienced with haze…I think the times I’ve smoked haze is maybe like once in my life. gasps yeah I know shocker.
So tell me why does haze always stand out to you ? What cool things would you tell a newbie like me
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They both have the same smell oddly best described as a strong sour smell with a small hint of pine but now loosing the pine and increasing the strong sour being mostly dominant.
There sister plants can range from strong Mango to an Asian incense with a touch of floral.
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Thank you for the description 
Never realized that Nevil’s had sour phenos. When did you source that batch of Nevil’s, can you comment on the source? My understanding is that the Nevil’s after early 2000s had changed.
Can you describe Asian incense? How does it compare to palo santo or frankincense? Or sandalwood?
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I got the Nevils Haze F1s from shanti around 2000 they were made by Nevil in 1997.
All the Nevils Haze sold by Mr Nice /Shanti i think up to 2003 were made by Nevil as were the SSH shanti had posted that at Cannabis World so it was not like i got different seed to others at the time.
Then once they ran out fresh seed were made using the same parents.
The Plants posted are f2s i made.
I dont know what sandalwood smells like but the Asian incense to me smells of a mix of spice and flowers.
When people say frankincense do they mean the burning of it or just frankincense that has not been scented. If you mean unscented frankincense yes i have found those to.
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I noticed a fair amount of the A-Dam hazes had sour notes back in the earlier 2000’s. Surprised me then, but guess that’s what got the rumors going about SDiesel being haze related.
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Thank you for clarifying! I would say that sandalwood is almost like a sweeter/softer version of frankincense, without any pine or lemon characteristics. One should note that there are 22 boswelia species so there is a good deal of variety in the frankincense family, although the papyrefira type is the most popular as it has been used by various Churches and can be found in the horn of Africa.
RE: frankincense
Presuming most refer to the essential scent that is found when burning the franky sap/resin.
Does the Nevil’s flower that carries the frankincense, smell like frankincense when it is burned? Have you ever burned frankincense sap? How often do you come across incense phenos when you run the Nevil’s line? Reading anecdotal reports it appears that the incense/franky phenos were much more common around ~early 2000s and then became a rarity
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I am of Greek decent so i grew up around frankincense and the use of it i am use to both smells from the un burnt to when its used. The scented frankincense is also used but very really.
The Church smell is referring to when Haze is smoked but you also get that smell from a few other sativas when smoked also
The Nevils Haze can have a mix of smell types one of the rearrest for me was a strong smell of sweat Mango that comes from the Colombian side or HzC is what Nevil said and had posted to.
I have Never come across a lemon smell in Nevils Haze or any of the Haze hybrids i have run or any other plant i have grown to be honest. I would love a lemon type but if i had to pic one it would be Mango.
Wadi Dawkah in Oman is one of the original sites where frankincense trees grew, and still grows.
There found in North Africa and India, but also in Yemen, and western Africa along with Oman.
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Would you still say that the post 2003 SSH and NH from Mr. Nice are still Neville’s lines just different and newer selection from that stock. I have Relic SSH, which is 98 Cup Winner SSH clone x to Relic’s SSH f3 selection (still don´t know if it is an f3 from current Mr.Nice beans or from when?). I will be comparing the two real soon btw.
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The lines Nevil breed will always be Nevils work how can they not be ?
I can only go by what i got and grew i have not grown any of the current seed to compare and if Shanti says his still using the same parent plant’s handed to him by Nevil then one can only go by that.
I grew F1 SSH made by Nevil i didn’t like SSH at all to be honest ran all seed selected re ran and culled.
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Looking killer man 
I ran nevils haze once it was the first sativa/haze I grew wish I saved those beans till I was a little more experienced. Looks like your doing them proper justice. have you noticed anything unique coming up in the f2s or is this staying true
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Is this ssh or Nevil?
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Last pick is SSH not my cup of tea it had what i call a dirty high.
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What i noticed in the F2s was plants were ether leaning to the HzA side or the HzC side basically i got lucky when i made the F2s in the selections i made in the F1s all those years ago.
I then selected from the F2s and took it to F3s and again i saw the same so i have managed to lock both sides of the Haze in.
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That’s amazing man I’ve heard great things about the hzC never tried anything with it besides the Neville I grew which I loved. If you have any seed stock from the f2 or f3 that you’d be interested in trading or something let me know would love to get some Nevil back in the garden. 
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I was implying the possibility of the plants changing and thus not being really Nevil’s lines or that Shanti might have made selections from Neville’s work that did not live up to par in comparison to Neville’s selections after several generations. However, these questions may not be the best because we all lack knowledge if something of the kind has happened or not. I guess I thought you had more information. In any case, thanks for the reply, hempy.
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OK, great so you have history with and have experienced first hand what frankincense scent is like. Wasn’t sure what you meant by scented, presuming you’re referring to essential oils.
Can you comment on what % of the nevil’s plants had the frankincense (when smoked) pheno? In reading old Mr Nice posts, it appears that the old SSH had franky phenos, but again very low %, requiring 100-150 plant minimum to potentially find it.
Also curious as to which other sativas you’ve experienced with frankincense smoke?
From my research frankincense can be found in many sativa lines throughout the world but is recessive (5-10% or less). So far the following lines allegedly carry it > Cryptic Labs Oaxacan gold, Some Colombian genetics (Punto Rojo, “gold” and corinto lines), South Indian genetics (IE Gokarna), Snowhigh’s Vietnamese Da Lat (purple pheno), RSC Red Thai from Isaan area.
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We can only go by what shanti or others tells us but take my Nevils Haze even at F3 i still conciser it Nevils work.
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No the scented frankincense is still sap its not an oil.
I would have to say all the sats i grew and grow had or have that type of smell when burning.
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