America’s Pot Labs Have A THC Problem -538

America’s Pot Labs Have A THC Problem -538

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Hey look at that @PlantShepherd

Exactly what I’ve been saying for years. Labs have been doing this since the DEA days to make it seem stronger/more dangerous and now that numbers are marketable and since cannabis testing labs have every financial incentive to do so, they’re continuing to inflate the results.

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I garuntee thats the case in my state. They will not allow people to submit samples for testing. Only licensed cultivators and dispensaries. And i bet it also plays into why the equipment is so expensive. To stop regular people from being able to know the truth. All part of the monopoly of bs large scale legal cannabis industry. But now the question is what can us (the people spending all this money) do about it? I grow my own. But thats illegal here. And i still have no idea what mine tests or if there is any contaminants. No idea the differences left by different nutrient lines nothing. Theres got to be something under consumer protection that can be filed to eliminate the false marketing and monopoly of the industry. But again how do we change it? They pay the govt to help them keep that monopoly.

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The only THC testing lab I need is my own brain.

Also I enjoy that the name is Skeate.

“My weed has 19% THC and yours only has 18% THC.” Who cares.

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The equipment is expensive, especially when brand new, because it’s incredibly complex, expensive to manufacture, very costly and time consuming to develop and usually not made in China. I’ve worked in the analytical instruments industry for a very long time, and I promise you that these things were always expensive. Some of the most complex instruments cost 7 figures, and many of them are in the high 6 figures.

The good news about testing is that many labs do exist that will test your product for you. For a variety of reasons, these labs would be very unlikely to provide false data. In my opinion, if consumers are made aware of the manipulated data that might be attached to the products they buy from a dispensary, it might drive them back to the black market. :sunglasses:

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“The pressure is real. Full stop. We have some retailers who love us, who sell out of our products, and they will only put our product on their shelves when it tests over 20 percent,” Jacobson said. “The buyers are always caveating, saying, ‘We know there’s so much more to cannabis and its effects [than just THC], but our consumers are still THC hunting.’”

The market’s obsession with marginally higher THC potencies does not appear to be based on any kind of science or expert advice. A University of Colorado Boulder study published last year did not find a correlation between higher THC products and stronger subjective “high” effects. Cannabis aficionados have long claimed that THC potency is a poor measure of cannabis quality, equating shopping for pot based on THC potency with shopping for wine or beer based only on alcohol content.

Lol. I feel sorry for people whose only experience will be the legal market. A whole generation of consumers is being created with the equivalent a Taco Bell palate, consuming cannabis almost exclusively bred toward (isolated for) the THC mono-cannabinoid, with occasionally some CBD, and polyhybrids with converging terpene profiles.

It’s no wonder why people who grow have been flocking back to old school genetics and landraces.

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1000000% sir!

And this:

I wouldn’t even say that that is a good analogy from them. It’s more like buying beer based on hops content, or something else entirely. THC isn’t the only thing getting you high, unlike alcohol being the sole thing getting you drunk.

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The data in the article is telling a story that contradicts this idea. There’s a pretty good correlation between reported THC potency and QA failure rate. And I have been told by people who work in the legal industry that it is common practice to “shop around” until you find a lab that gives you the number you want.

The incentive is higher numbers = more business. Maybe they don’t falsify data, but maybe also there’s room within the variation of the samples to retest until you find the highest ones.

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Sometimes I look at the results and have to wonder if they are rolling the buds in extra kief before testing.

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Kief rolling, lab shopping, bait and switches. They are all happening.

It seems like regulators need to not be paid by the people they are regulating. Revolutionary idea. Maybe something like a public entity, funded by taxes could do that… :roll_eyes:

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i have a lab that test and guess what that lab is located in my lungs to my brain. i can give you an estimate of thc, by no means will the first test be accurate in fact keep sending my company samples to smoke, i can assure you i can create a label that says it was tested, yeah the dea and cops and who ever else have these tests down, there may be labs that do just that, create labels and smoke the test samples, idk anything is possible though

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I see dumb shit like “40% THC” like yeah bud OK you telling me you get 40% BHO yields? No one goes over 25% and that’s including the plant waxes, terpenes, etc… Sheeeit 40% THC is as strong as lower grade bubble or kief which lines up perfectly with what you’re saying.

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For you to send that response in reply to my post tells me that I failed to convey my point. Firstly, I do not doubt that testing labs fudge the numbers for commercial growers, and especially for dispensaries. And I’m sure the entities that are sending their weed to be tested are also leaning on the lab to fudge those numbers higher (or lower, when it comes to unwanted pesticides, insects, heavy metals, etc.). My point, when I wrote this:

I literally meant YOU, or ME or anyone here on OG that grows and is not a commercial grower. Labs have absolutely no incentive to fudge the numbers when they’re testing Joe Random’s weed.

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Hey guess what asshat… We’ve used multiple labs and received the same results. Guess they are all inflating it exactly the same. Tag someone who cares next time. :fu:

Edit: I’ll add you’re just a real douche b/c you have never ever tested anything or been any part of the testing process, ‘but you have been saying for years corruption in the thc test labs’ - Gee… you must be NostraFuckingDomis… Can I get your autograph now?

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I understand what you’re saying now. Sorry, I misunderstood. Totally agree.

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fist bump

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*Nostradamus

Plantshepherd reaching levels of butthurt that shouldn’t be possible haha

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Not to start waves. But I get approached all the type by guys who want to compare their smoke to mine.
A couple of weeks ago a good buddy call me over to sample some “wedding cake” that he was excited about.
Of course I told him there was no way of telling what it is without smoking it. He gave me a sample. I waited to late that evening to try it with my wife. I like to have a second opinion.
The first thing I noticed is a familiar smell. I couldn’t pin point it off the back, but I did recognize it. Each time I walk into the room, I was like “what is that smell?” Then I thought “oh it’s that bud.”
Time to roll up so now I reall get to see what it is. Solid, with calyxes as small as pin heads.
Definitely not seed junky is what I’m thinking. But it could be. Someone else grew it. When I looked it up, the description was a gsc cross, but the label was wedding cake. The genetics didn’t resemble anything from those lines.
When I broke it down it was wet in the middle. The texture told me that it was not cured, now I know for that it isn’t. I’m thinking This came from a dispensary and it’s no where near ready to sell.
My wife took a couple of hits then passed it to me. She said no. I hit it anyway because I really wanted to know what it had going on.
My wife started to get palpitations and said it has terpenes on it. I said ok that’s the smell that been annoying me all day.
I took 2 hits and my head ranged for 4 hours until I went to bed. My wife was sick. She kept saying she wanted to go to the ER.
Smoking terpenes on bud is a horrible experience. You will know it by the chest pains, head aches, heart palpitations. And you will never forget it
He got this from a dispensary. I saw paperwork and receipt… i try not to smoke street bud.
I see the guys around here soaking their buds in terpenes or whatever they can get their hands on. So it’s crazy that this came directly from a Licensed dispensary.
I’m thinking these fools don’t even have a clue as to what they are buying.
I know I drug this out.
But is it possible that they are testing bud laced with terpenes. You would think that it would increase the terpenoids count. And who would be the wiser? Just my 2 cents worth.

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Omg… I misspelled NostraDAMUS I must be SO stupid. At least I know the difference between a springtail and an aphid plant genius.

I’ve regularly seen 30+ THC percent all across the country from all different labs. Like others have said in this thread, it is perfectly legal (at least in my state) for a patient to have their purchased bud tested. If there were big discrepancies, you could see it. Do numbers get fudged? Probably. Is that a reason to talk smack about legal growers that are making it happen while you sit in your basement playing couch quarterback? I think not. Now go run along and troll someone else.

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That’s just nonsense…there’s no chairs in the basement.

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