You mean hydro grown right?
Not necessarily.
Well strawberries lacking flavor are generally hydro grown… taste like water mostly etc…
How do you think they mass produce them? For size and you said whatever else… but I’m positive you meant speed… indicating hydro… no? @Nitt ?
Selection, genetic modifications, etc., whatever else a particular supplier may or may not do to increase profits.
I’m not saying they’re not hydro, or that they are, deliberately, because I don’t know. That’s all.
If anything, I guess I meant “store bought” versus “wild” or “naturally” growing (which by default, is not synthetic).
Super jealous lol! I’m all ears if you can give me some elemental ppm and ratios that work for you in coco. I can never get my brix above 5.
Sorry @HolyAngel. I jumped the gun without reading ahead again. You’re still using maxi bloom start to finish? I know we’ve discussed this before lol.
Yeah still on it. Been experimenting with also supplementing some jacks. Like a gram or so of the 10-30-20 per gallon, but only because I have it on hand and want to use it up. Been looking at other supplements lately too but for sure good ol gypsum and maxibloom the whole way.
I don’t get it. My elemental Ca is at 160 and, my elemental S is at 170 and my brix sucks. Always has no matter what ratios I mess around with. I check brix levels weekly with a refractometer. The only time it hit 10% was when I lowered my N:K ratio to 1:1 on the 707 OG Kush I am running. I had to increase it to 1:1.5 N:K because it was resulting in to luxurious growth. Plants smell wonderful but flavor is lacking.
Hmm that’s about my Ca and S levels too. Sometimes more. My N:K ratio tho is always at least 1:2 or greater. I don’t usually ever run N higher than 120ish ppm the whole grow. Usually less. I haven’t actually checked my brix levels but the flower comes out loud and tasty.
I’m running 250 K to 135 N at the moment. I have tried dropping N to 120 before hoping less NO3 would contribute to higher brix but they started displaying an N deficiency. Maybe I’ll raise K to a 2:1 ratio with N and see if that helps at all. Mind you, I do raise my K ratio for flowering but never ran 2:1 ratio straight through.
@HolyAngel @SeymourGreen Do either of you use anything other than the “required” macro and micro nutrients (Other than N, P, K, Mg, Ca, B, Cu, etc.). “Bio-stimulants”, vitamins, “hormones”, anything like that? I know that some of these are in one of these categories, for example; amino acids, fulvic/humic, kelp (hormones? cytokinins), enzymes, etc.? I think one of you mentioned you use Silica maybe?
Couldn’t it be something other than “N-P-K-etc.” is what I’m wondering…
Is there any scientific research and/or answer to the question of what are the options or methods for increasing brix in hydroponics, or with synthetics or whatever?
Is there anything on brix in cannabis specifically? Anything about a link to high(er) brix leading to better…something (more abundant terpenes, general increase plant health, higher cannabinoids, etc.)?
The video I posted shows some of why… I mentioned earlier that nitrogen without a carbon molecule attached lowers the brix, carbon is not the same as a gas (co2). it needs to be a solid carbon I believe… at least that’s what I gathered from his videos explaining everything…
Brix is important… low brix is low flavor… high brix is more. Again… claims that cultured biologix stated
I haven’t ran silica in a couple years now. I have used humic/fulvic acids as well as molasses type products and noticed a stickier, possibly smellier, flower at the end of it but nothing I can quantify for sure made a difference.
From the articles I can find, hydro should be easier to maintain a high brix level compared to soil but again, gonna be up to the grower for that.
Ways to increase brix I can find are, osmotic stress and high EC content. As well as possibly high K, humic, and fulvic acids.
Now does higher sugar content in the plants sap mean it smokes better?
Smoke better… idk… taste better… absolutely… so I suppose yes it smokes better then yeah?
That video kinda sucks. Even if you forget that it’s a sales pitch for his product he makes a lot of claims and then explains nothing, its not very convincing if the topic is cannabis imo. The video is also a year old and you can’t buy any of these nutrients yet (from their website “coming soon”)? no labels anywhere on the website is also strange. Not trying to bash em’ just saying this isn’t really good evidence.
This is an interesting topic that doesn’t really come up much? My current understanding is that a high brix can be one indication of a healthy plant; high sugar content, pest resistance, but doesn’t really translate to dank buds? Obviously a healthy plant = best case most of the time but should we be chasing a higher brix late flower?
Personally I’m interested… and I promise to read a little more before I spew bullshit in here again
Mind sharing what you’ve been reading?
I’d like to get to the bottom of if this is a sales pitch… or if it’s true … to the bottom of what does for sure create a high brix, what creates the highest brix is what I am after really… because I honestly believe that it is profoundly important to cannabis … I’m not saying you all don’t grow amazing marijuana, I’m sure all of you grow better than I do being newer… that is why I’m doing what I am doing talking about things like this.
I just want to know in reality what is better so I can learn that method and finally achieve buds that I can enjoy to the fullest extent… it’s hard to ascertain the answer because alot of times there’s bias involved usually because it’s not the way people are growing… not saying that’s any of you either… but it’s hard to know the truth unless it’s been a controlled test… but I assumed here on overgrow it has been done by someone?
Rabbit holes… always rabbit holes my friends lol…
But if anyone, can give me the honest true answer to what grow method is superior as to quality… is factually the best… I want to know
No it’s all good… that’s what I am honestly trying to find out… what is honestly superior… as to quality smell flavor taste etc… not talking yield. Within reason of course. I have to say I’ve seen several more vids by that individual, and it seems extremely convincing… he’s talked on several cannabis forums or video interviews… and he seemed credible as far as knowledge… but again… I’m no one to judge such a character… hence me bringing it up… I should make a thread about it instead of polluting this thread anyway… @moderators can we maybe move all this conversation into a new thread ? name it "Brix levels, do they matter? " or something like that?
I made a thread so it can be moved
Word. I’m just chasing the best cannabis I can grow like most here, but I’m currently lost way down a soil-less/salt/high ec rabbit hole… but I kinda like it down here .
I just searched brix here to see if anyone was talking about it (not really) and saw the new topic… so off I go!
See u there man… I love knowledge, and that’s what I’m here for as well