I bet your bloods starting to race now. I’m glad your finding good stock. Looks like a good time 
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Its typical for the males to smell stronger, grow taller and more vigorous. Now that I shared that dont go start pre culling males and end up with 10% females on the next seed pops. Still gotta wait till you see the sex organ.
Part of why females don’t smell as strong early on is their lack of sexual and hormonal maturity. And their development from triggering flowering where there are a lot of early triggering males.
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I won’t @Josh_Blue and I didn’t do that on this run in case people are wondering. I am here to learn and appreciate your input.
This makes perfect sense as the males were the first to undoubtedly show their identity for the most part. The funny thing is the best smelling male to me was the last to show sex. It even got a transplant as I thought it was a female. These plants vegged for two months before flipping and had a male spitting before the flip.
So my question for you @Josh_Blue or any one else is this. When starting seeds from good stock as these for reproduction/preservation when should you flip? Should you wait till the ladies mature a bit more? Is this dependent on your objective inclusive or exclusive breeding. Lots to learn for sure. Thanks again for sharing your expertise. I appreciate it.
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I always flip the ladies before the males as they get randy earlier 
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Most Breeders say the later the male shows the better and if they drop pollen before the flip they have less desirable traits (low potency) they pass on
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They’ll catch up later… more intent on creating blossoms to catch the pollen… they’ll get smell when the buds get bigger…
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I was thinking that as well reading @kavman’s post immediately followed by the question ‘if he keeps extra pollen of that plant?’ 
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That’s a great sign of a stud from what I’ve heard anicdotally from other breeders, late flowering, really smelly, resinous, good structure, these are all the run of the mill criteria for selecting breeder males, might want to hang onto him!
As far as flipping makes and females as @G-paS said lots flip the females first to set more flower and accept larger amounts of seed. But you’d be fine just flipping everyone together and letting everything go do it’s things too, you kinda can’t miss as long as everyone’s healthy and together when the pollen flies
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Yea that’s the biggest downside of open pollinations. You get more seeds from the earlier flowering males, and most people want the opposite.
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Thanks for the input people love it. After digesting the last few comments and coming out to the garden I have concluded the following. As far as the early male not being desirable typically, there isn’t really much there for him to pollinate with yet so I don’t think he will ruin anything. We all want an equally preserved seed run here. All but number 7, the stinkiest one is spitting. So maybe by just leaving the slower ones longer and removing the early ones sooner will even things out. Hmmmm. Here are a few pictures showing female progress.
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Oh Yea, we are off !!
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She’s a beaut Clark!
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hey kavman, do you consider saving some pollen of the later flowering one? I’d be interested to dust my bubba kush with it (and everything else i have going then lol)
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Happy Thanksgiving @Kavman, hope your day is a good one
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Foreigner wants!
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Looks like they are coming along nicely. Props. Have a great turkey day brother
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Thank you @Heliosphear for the tips and tricks on midjourney prompts. I made this one for the Temple Flow…
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@Tracker thanks for sharing that and I believe your artistic creation represents this project 100%. Having Native American ancestors makes this even more special. This run has been a special journey for me and when its all done I wish we could all gather in a temple and soar together in a spiritually intellectual enlightening experience for just a moment. Thank you and Happy thanksgiving to you and all of OG.
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I’ll bring the 
and we’ll all take a good “trip” 
but I’m outta likes LoL so 
I think it’s looking great and I do think that you’re right about the picture @Kavman and that’s very cool and I always love seeing these pictures that you are doing @Tracker … HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE 
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I couldn’t figure out how to make the pictures look like I wanted until @Heliosphear gave me some tips.
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