Yes I agree there is a lot to look for but also as we do not have access to tests to check for cannabinoids and terpenes so there is always the question what to look for? relying only on a long flowering period and thin leaves is very restricted.
Anyway, when in doubt, I keep all the pressed seeds I can, I’ve been saving and adding them since 2012, I keep them in the fridge along with my other seeds.
Take a look at them:
That is a hilarious gif of the tree losing its Pollen.
Holy Shit… Thanks for that real-world reference
I know it’s none of my business, but what are your plans for them? I ask this because I can send you some but if you do a seedrun I could send a lot more, the only requirement I would have is that the shipping costs are covered with tracking, I say this because I already sent a few times and never got feedback if they arrived or not, there were times I never got some stuff too, so it’s always awful not knowing what happened to the beans.
selection is still difficult for me, but whenever I can I germinate some to see if it’s still viable.
I recently made a cross with a female that didn’t show hermaphrodite signs with my 88g13/hp but out of 16 only a few didn’t drop balls.
hey bro @Haxixandoamente sorry for my shit and pictures in your thread I left it hidden so as not to pollute your thread 
I saw snow in Peru once. It was in the Andes, between Lima and Cuzco, at about 15,000 feet (about 4500 meters). People forget that South America is more than just jungle. The entire Peruvian coast and a large portion of the Andes are desert.
I’d seen the deserts of the United States (Sonora, Mojave) but the Atacama and Arica Deserts were the most desolate places I had ever seen. I’d seen the mountains of the USA (Rockies, Cascades) but the Andes…holy shit. I have yet to see any other mountains so large and so precipitous. We went over a pass where there was very little vegetation, and the permafrost was (at most) a foot (30cm) down and it was very cold. Two hours later, we were in a valley where there were oranges and bananas growing. Wow…
@Shanti-ri
First of all thank you for this unexpected offer.
About plans: For me plan sound like too big of a word. If the seed you have is sourced in 2012, this means it has at least 20 years of polyhybridization. I dont know what kind of plans you can draw up with unstable genetics. You cannot isolate phenos because it is all a genetic mix up
I am interested to know the source of your seed, is it from brick? Where did you get the brick?
Paraguayan is the local landrace, I grew up with it.
According to the different reports I am seeing, it got hybridized beginning of 90s. I am just assuming or guessing Maconha da Lata put a very big pressure on paraguayan weed and they went to Holland to search for productivity and thats how the hybridization started
I am growing at the moment 2 different Capricorn Tropic strains: New Caledonia and I am running 9 different varieties of Zamal from Reunion Island. I got a breeders pack which is a phenotype carnival, unstable genetics. I culled all males, cant get anything decent or reliable out of that
They are both auto at our latitudes. For me and for the brazilian guys Zamal is auto and gives us counterseason growing. I hope I find something half decent in this run.
So I thought or dreamt about or as you say made a plan: Double Tropic of Capricorn crossing Mango Zamal with New Caledonia.and a few seed I got made and they are on the plants in the making now.
I am not sure it is a good cross at all, New Caledonia has very low landrace resistance, it is the first plant attacked by local fauna, both females and males. I am keeping males outdoors this year so I can see what happens with them. Only after I smoke them I will know if this is worth looking into
This is Thai from Ace Seeds
This is Northern Thai 2008 below and Thai from Ace Seeds above
I just asked the brazilian irmaos because what they post is the most interesting in Overgrow
I have a question for Irmao @Bud_Weiser
In this very interesting thread, you will see a magazine I was rolling my paraguayan spliffs on. There is an english translation of the article inside the thread. At that time this thread was posted I was getting very good quality brick, nice green with nice smells, coming from a private small grower with love for ganja. I read in the Agencia Publica dossier that this weed quality now is going to Floripa
So in this post about Maconha da Lata the author claims the cans had indonesian newspapers lining the cans (as latas foram forradas con jornal indonesiano)
Have you seen this yourself? Can you confirm it?
Have a nice day
this is amazing my Bro…
Yes, I also agree that there are some peculiarities of Paraguay that cannot be visibly selected…
That sounds very interesting…
It’s a pleasure to count on your contribution, my Bro, I wouldn’t call it pollution …
and that Brick Seed Bank looks juicy … 
It must have been an Amazing experience…
Tropical Glacial …
While my neighbors go to the trouble of exterminating them I simply throw them to the wind … I once guaranteed seeds to a partner this way he didn’t have males but he did have seeds …
consider it a gift …
Too Perfect! Guilt free
I thought about that too and would like to know which was the predominant phenotype among Paraguayans before these waves of hybridizations… Maybe it would be a guide in terms of phenotypic isolation…
wow this is really beautiful… congratulations…
I would have remembered more, but I had severe altitude sickness (soroche). Thankfully, coca leaves are legal and cheap. Anytime I went into the Andes, I chewed coca leaves the whole time. Another interesting part of that trip was going from Nazca to Puquio, from sea level to 10,000 feet (3000 meters) in about 3 hours. That was painful, but it was just the beginning.
From a military standpoint, the Andes are a defender’s paradise and an attacker’s nightmare. The Peruvian Army and Marines had to fight an insurgency there, and it did not go well for them, for obvious reasons.
Cannabis would do very, very well there, though. The sun is intense and there are predictable monsoons. Speaking of which, people threw cannabis seeds on the ground in Lima, and there were cannabis plants growing everywhere, but nobody knew what they were. I found one that was over 3 meters tall and covered with small buds. Even though it wasn’t cured properly, it still got me very, very high.
The old paraguayan had many leaflets and it was common knowledge back then that the highest amount of leaflets had the higher potency. It had up to 21 leaflets per leaf, less than 13 leaflets was not good quality, looking like a palm leaf
I never heard of any other strain which you could predict potency by number of leaflets
You have experience growing the paraguayans. Did you find difference in the quality of high of the fastest flowering to the longest flowering ones? Before it was one harvest per year, today it is 3 harvest per year
You need to congratulate the plants not me, they are the stars
Outdoors the Thais get huge, they can be 5 meter plants easy
These thais have good adaptation to mata atlantica environment. Most of the weed I grew coming from Europe have adaptation problems to high humidity environments. In Spain they breed in a desertic environment very dry and have to readapt here.
Indoors they go intersex. I hope outdoors in the greenhouse they like it, adapt, have a good high and girls dont go intersex. We will see in the coming months
Certainly a beautiful place … I imagine it was a privilege to be able to contemplate …
I also do not believe that potency can be based on this item …
Yes, some of the short flowering ones have more potency. But the slow flowering ones bring a different high…
I cannot speak with authority because I started to cultivate them and they were already in an advanced hybridization process…
Thanks a lot Mano @funkyhorse
And good luck… For sure you will be able to dribble the necessary interperes…
TamoJunto 
I can only imagine the methods dreamed up to get seeds out of there. I’ve heard of beans being sewed into hats and tea cozies in Pakistan, when I lived in Mexico, down in La Paz, there was a guy who would use Aculpoco Gold and other cannabis seeds and put them in ornate mariachis. Not sure they were real Aculpoco Gold, but he found himself a cool el nicho…
Just curious, so big fat leaves on an indica do not predict potency just perhaps that it’s indica?
hello @PioneerValleyOG …
Here in brazil they say that many african seeds were brought with the slaves and also in many imaginable ways…
(braided seeds) … It even looks like the name of a seed bank… 
I have sent seeds to many countries including Brazil, and never had an issue. I use a global stamp and have used both coin flips and pucks. I’m settled on pucks as they seem to meet all criteria to get there with no problem. Do you grow specifically Brazilian strains and or landraces? What is your favorite to grow down there? I find this very interesting…
