Exactly Hemp.
I could see where an experienced grower could utilize MG, as you said, sparingly. But I would think you’d have to be really on your game to do so.
Would you agree, however, that it would be good advice to inexperienced growers, such as myself, to refrain from using it at all though?
Just wondering.
You couldn’t get anything. I even remember using cow manure and chicken manure chicken manure is hot
That’s a big question. 0-0-0 . These are your numbers. If you go by the feeding charts the most nutrients brands offer. If you read the ingredients and the percentages. That’s where math comes in the play. It’s hard for me to explain because I see it. I understand how it works. To a certain percent if you understand what I’m saying I’m no pro. I have seen and have use myself the miracle grow organic for seeds and clones. Bugs. I will never use it again. I use happy frog. I do not mix it with anything. I do know that miracle Gro runs on a 14 day cycle. That’s a hard question for me to answer @MoBilly. I feel like anything sparingly works. How do we know 100% what they’re giving us. I have started my seeds with miracle grow and got them up pretty fast and continue to give them mg all the way though. This was outdoor growing this was over 30 years ago. Some of the seeds I did start this year I did use miracle grow I’m not gonna lie I did not have a problem I didn’t go by recommended amount and I could have added more than I needed to. Sativa is very patient and lenient. It’s a very easy plant to grow. Is one of the few that I know of that you can pick the leaves on a regular basis. Which I have a problem with. If I see a fan leaf that long and has some color deficiencies in it . It’s gone. So to the answer of miracle grow or any type of these products whatsoever it takes time to figure out what works for you then you can learn from others what they have to offer. Everything that I see here are my suggestions never never do you things unless you’re 100% sure of
I do top every now and then. With bonemeal and happy frog one of those caverns or something with that. Neptune I really love the stuff. B52 Nirvana. The last two are use more than anything
My k is low in my opinion. A little potassium the piston it looks like. It could need some iron
You might be right. I moved some of the bigger ones they’re already showing signs. One is a female. Week 6 or 7 form seed. Sativa will do that sometimes in my opinion. I do believe they’re all feminized. Only one seed busted from the side
I am pretty impressed with the bp4000. I can’t wait to get a better light. It’s not bad I haven’t really got in there and tried to do a par reading yet. But what I’m seeing looks good
I have to take some of that back. I need to be giving them more 0- 30- 15 or so. Miracle grow was showing 24% nitrogen. I really didn’t read anything past that I didn’t notice that I thought they were a little bit higher on the last two numbers but they’re not. I could understand if you’re growing outdoors and your growing in the ground. Rain water is the only Option I have grown with only miracle grow. Bat guano and all that stuff like that I couldn’t find any of that stuff you read about it in high times. They didn’t have no stores around where I live that and if you did go to some you’re always scared
To be honest with @LilJonB the only reason that I had it is when I started this year I couldn’t find anything else around me. I had a bag of seeds they were eight seeds. I plan them just to see if they were any good. They were they grew great I just messed them up with too many mistakes that I have forgotten about. I think I made feminine seeds out of them but I’m not 100% sure I am a gruesome they grew great I just think I tried to turn on too fast they hermies a little bit and then maybe they did sometimes I will pick one out without hesitation and that hurts me sometimes. Happy Frog for 40$ man that’s high. I didn’t have any lights I didn’t have anything I started from scratch all over again. Like you said 15 years ago things were different than all the way around. I can remember getting good dirt. I never seen dirt with those many bugs in it especially flies. It’s not cheap dirt that’s the thing about it none of its cheap anymore. I have an outside garden vegetable garden I have over $500 in it already and I’m not finished
Yeah it can get crazy high. I’m in no way a “cash cropper” but I will sell a little of my bud for supplies. I know within the past year I spent over $3,000 for everything. It’s crazy I know. That’s why I say if it works use it.
I missed all the stuff a few posts back. MG soil I will use outside. Now for indoor if I do soil (Which won’t be anytime soon for sure. Water is practically free nutes for hydroponics is cheap for how many runs you get out of the stuff.) I will spend the $$$ for the Fox Farm. Look at it like this. How much money are you spending on green each month? Times that by 3. Just as long as you don’t go over that number on a single grow your good. Getting started is the hard part. I was using cfls for a while. That stimulus money got me my start. Thanks Uncle Sam!
I agree 100% on that one buddy
I’d rather have my own any day. I have problems don’t give me wrong but I still have a good product a lot better than I’ve seen around here
D… I’m so angry right now. They are autos. I want to yell. Man I put down clones for these. I’m ok but not happy
@MoBilly @LilJonB . Ok the MG is a no no. If you want to slap me just take turns don’t do it both at the same time. So with that little bit that I I had it some of the plants that I had top with some bonemeal fox farm cavern something. It almost cooked them. I see what was going on and flush with water. It slowed it down. You could see the look. Leaves folding. They look great. But the seeds I was so happy to get. That I couldn’t ever get the truth out of the person. Are autos. So I’m going to call them . @HappyGoLucky21 … Happy Mo LilB Sounds scientific. @HappyGoLucky21 good eye. I keep thanking about it. I see where you said something. I didn’t here it loud enough . Next time you can use bad words. Lol. @HappyGoLucky21 good eye
So I see signs of females. I do have them in 3 gallon pots. I did change 3 times. But the roots looked great. I do it when they where not so dry. Not tight. No stress after transplanting. I think I’m in for a short ride. I did really care because I thought they where reg. I’m disappointed about that. I could still have a male. I hope so. Then I wouldn’t fell so bad. Lol I really don’t. It’s like getting a tool. Or a truck. If it don’t go I don’t want it. Had a friend said that a lot when I was a kid. But with a few more words.
My apologizes Hemp!
I never meant to lecture or cast stones. Not in the least. In fact, I used it myself on my first grow. I used it in a 50 50 mix with Happy Frog in my solo cups.
They got hot but did fine.
That’s the awesome thing about the forum, and growing. There are so many paths that lead to a successful harvest and on here we get to bounce ideas off one another.
I’m not going to say that I’ll never use MG again either.
I might run across that type of strain that it would benefit.
Please take no offense where none was meant.
No I didn’t take it that way my friend. I was joking 
. We are good brother. @MoBilly . We are from the same 
. We been down the same road. I think you for all the tips and stories
I see the problem. I set these up as regulars. I see know why I’m low on p and k. If I knew like @HappyGoLucky21 called it I would be in trouble. I got to put more hole around the pots. I was going to run them in 5 gallon containers. I think the lights may have been to low. Bp4000 is strong. No HLG
I love your green tub!
… Not as much as your plants though, looking good friend. Great growing 
